PSA for 13th/14th gen Intel CPU owners

[]-[itman]

Yeah... not seeing that result repeated anywhere else.


I didn't get a chance to put it on mine and test, but should have time once I come back Monday from a wedding in ATL.

PS @]-[itman - you can make that url in your signature a clickable link, if you like.

Thanks, how do I do that in this forum?

 

[EarthDog]

You can use the link button in the toolbar, or highlight any text and hit ctl+k and drop the link in that way.


AMA - Computer chips, how they are made, and why they behave the way they do.

 

[Viper69]

Saw this on Anand...man my Hitman 3 is going to take a hit! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I'm not going to be the guinea pig and try it just yet.

BUT- how would one know if your CPU is already degraded???

Intel Publishes First Microcode Update for Raptor Lake Stability Issue, BIOSes Going Out Now

www.anandtech.com

 

[EarthDog]

BUT- how would one know if your CPU is already degraded???

The only way to notice on our end is instability.

 

[Viper69]

The only way to notice on our end is instability.

Eesh thanks, so it sounds at some point I need to install the code from ASUS using that BioFlash method

 

[EarthDog]

Eesh thanks, so it sounds at some point I need to install the code from ASUS using that BioFlash method

Yes. Just flash the bios the normal way. Doesn't need to a be a flashback (specific port, etc). Instructions are in your manual.

 

[dfonda]

One of the biggest things I dislike about updating BIOS. Wish there was a way to keep settings. I only just found out this morning I forgot to disable the iGPU after the last update. At least it didn't seem to have caused any problem but I don't trust Windows to get multi-GPU right.


Does sound like they got the microcode, integrated it and likely published it as beta after some minimal checks. Hopefully they'll get the full checks done and bring it to release status quickly. And hopefully there's nothing wrong with it!

Can't you save a profile in Bios prior to updating?

I was checking on chipset drivers and others at the Gigabyte site and see that at least for the Aorus Master X the new Intel Microcode Bios is available. No rush for me as I went with a 12600.

 

[EarthDog]

Can't you save a profile in Bios prior to updating?

Yes, but it's different bios versions. It has been a while but the last time I recall trying that didn't work (profiles from previous bios versions).

 

[dfonda]

Yes, but it's different bios versions. It has been a while but the last time I recall trying that didn't work (profiles from previous bios versions).

Figures...

and a Test of my Mobo with the Microcode.

 

[mackerel]

Can't you save a profile in Bios prior to updating?

I tried it in the distant past but it gets wiped by the update. I haven't tried recently so I don't know if it might have changed.

and a Test of my Mobo with the Microcode.

I'm sure there's useful info in there but it badly needs a summary of the results.

 

[EarthDog]

Oh..Oops...

A bios profile gets wiped. Saving fhe profile externally (usb), doesnt tend to work between versions last i tried. But that has been a while.

 

[Viper69]

Yes. Just flash the bios the normal way. Doesn't need to a be a flashback (specific port, etc). Instructions are in your manual.

Hmm, why would one flash the bios the normal way? It seems Bios Flashback via USB from ASUS is supposed to be easier perhaps? Then again maybe that's marketing, and my lack of understanding? I thought this Bios flashback tech was some type of shortcut? Just curious!

 

[EarthDog]

It's a similar process, really. Dump file on usb stick for both. One you manually enter the bios and flash, the other, you put it in a specific port and hit the button. The flashback method is intended for cpus that won't work... but more often than not, they do enough to flash.

 

[Viper69]

It's a similar process, really. Dump file on usb stick for both. One you manually enter the bios and flash, the other, you put it in a specific port and hit the button. The flashback method is intended for cpus that won't work... but more often than not, they do enough to flash.

I see now, interesting. I’ll do the normal method. Thanks!!

 

[Kenrou]

"Turning off "Intel Default Settings" with Microcode 0x129 DISABLES THE VID/VCORE LIMIT"

 

[Kenrou]

"Intel have promised to help fix the issues relating to instability issues spanning from 13th and 14th gen CPUs, however checking out VDD_CPU, IMC, VID and Vcore Voltages with the latest microcode patch, referred to as 0x129 via a bios update... Shows that nothing has been fixed and infact you just get higher temps, higher wattage and ultimately worse performance, especially vs an initial release bios."

00:00 VDD CPU Voltage, Vcore and VID explained, the VDD is running OUT OF SAFETY SPEC ALL THE TIME!
04:49 Benchmarks, 720p Baldur's Gate 3 and CS 2, Cinebench with 6 different profiles tested, spanning from 0x10E to 0x125 to 0x129.
09:33 What I think is really happening to these CPUs.
13:31 Recommendation on going forward using any 13th or 14th Gen CPU... settings that I would personally use.
14:54 Conclusion, the stalling is getting worse and worse while the real problem continues and WILL continue based on my research.

 

[mackerel]

Wake me up when there is a good technical WRITEUP. This is one area where videos are a poor way to convey information.

 

[Viper69]

This is not good news at all. I did not install it the BIOS microcode yet- now I’ll wait I think.

This is a nightmare.

 

[EarthDog]

This is not good news at all. I did not install it the BIOS microcode yet- now I’ll wait I think.

This is a nightmare.

Huh??? What isn't good news?

Why would you wait?

 

[Viper69]

Huh??? What isn't good news?

Why would you wait?

See post 116. Seems the member wrote that patch didn’t help.