Driving Force Pro
- PS2 for Gran Turismo 4
- PC
Good basic wheel, enough buttons on the wheel itself with directonal buttons for cycling thru menus & other options while driving. This is something important for sim racing, you will be changing pitstop strategies on the fly while you are on the track. The paddle shifter feel is good but is prone to wear due to the fact how Logitech mounts the micro switches. The sequencial shifter is reliable but to be honest most people map it for a handbrake for PC driving simulators. The wheel uses a optical position sensor so there is no potentiometer to wear out which is good. The pedals use full size potentiometers but are carbon carbon contacts, they wear out within a few months if you are a serious sim racer. You can replace these with conductive plastic potentiometers,steel casing but the contact points inside the pot are conductive plastic, that are usually rated between 5,000,000 to 20,000,000 rotations compared to the stock 100,000 rotations. The wheel is noisy, gear whine mostly so you will want to get in there & use some plastic friendly grease so minimize this.
Driving Force GT
- PS2/3 for Gran Turismo Series
- PC
Basically the same as the Driving Force Pro with updated on the wheel switches plus a rotary encoder. Everything else is the same with the same exact pedals & problems.
G25
- PS2/3 for Gran Turismo Series
- PC
Dual Motor Force Feedback with much quieter operation compared to the Driving Force series. Combination of plastic, stainless steal & leather construction. The paddle shifter feel is sub par but doesnt fail like the Driving Force series over time with some prerequisite mods. There isnt enough buttons on the wheel, the H Patern Shifter setup is vague & not reliable. I have it setup in sequential mode mapped as a handbrake. The buttons on the shifter module are not useful since they are difficult to reach when you are driving. The wheel isnt thick enough for me but uses the proven optical sensor. The pedals are built very well. They can take more abuse than the Driving for series because of the way the potentiometers are actuated. People complain about having the brake & throttle in the same plane, being a problem for heel & toe driving. I dont have a problem with this since I like to left foot brake. A Clutch pedal for racing really isnt needed because you only need it really when launching at the start, even real race cars with sequential shifters you only need to let off the throttle to shift up or down, I would prefer a 3rd paddle for a hand clutch.The wheel feel is very very good with how it relates to the game, the faster reacting dual forcefeedback motor is very very good, they are smaller so reacts faster & located at oposite ends of the main gear system. This solves the problem of jumping gears associated with single motor gear driven wheels.
G27
- PS2/3 for Gran Turismo Series
- PC
Same as the G25 with some major mods. There are more buttons on the wheel & it is thicker too. The paddle shifter is much better, you have a positive click feel & Logitech finaly mounted the micro switches properly. They now use helical gears instead of straight cut to reduce the noise even further, this is a drawback I believe. There is more slack & a bigger dead spot on the center of the wheel. The shifter is now only H Pattern but has been improved. I dont like H Pattern for racing, slow & cumbersome & more prone to failure. The pedals have been reworked for better heel & toe driving, adjustable so for me I can still set it up for F1 style.
Wheels to avoid in the Logitech range would be the MOMO Racing, the cheap black & plastic wheel. Although it has the best steering feel of them all, very small deadspot & very precise, the paddle shifter failure rate is very high & the pedals fail in a month for serious sim racing.
If only Logitech would create a wheel that had the MOMO Racing feel for the steering, buttons like the Driving Force GT, force feedback system of the G25, pedals & paddles of the G27 then add 2 more paddles for clutch & whatever you so choose & keep a sequential shifter so you have the option to map it like a handbrake.
I am getting the G27 when the revision B comes out, I have the G25 revision B.
I agree that a good wheel doesn't make you a better driver, it just really adds to the immersion of the sim.
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