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Radeon 9800 Pro $110 but with a catch

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wakkadss

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My girlfriend's brother bought a Dimension 8300 three weeks ago and he wanted to get a professional 3d/cad vid card and didn't want a game card. He told me the specs of the computer and mentioned it said Radeon 9800 for an extra "$110" above the stock Geforce4MX. I checked on it and it's a NON-PRO and the difference is that the NON-Pro has a core/clock speed of 325/295, which is about the same speed of a Radeon 9700, and the Pro had 378/338. I had him order it and paid him $110 for it. When I got it I checked the board layout and it is IDENTICAL to the 9800 Pro pics I see from many review sites but I did not check the chip to see if it really is the R350 core. I plugged in the card and installed the catalyst 3.4 drivers and it recognized the card as a 9800 Pro....SWEET!!! I installed Rage3D Tweak and it detected the card with a core/mem speed of 325/295. Of course I immediately began to overclock this sucker and I was able to get core 427 and mem 355. Not freaking bad for a 110 bucks and it's faster than a stock 9800 Pro. I benchmarked it using 3dMark03 with my XP1700+ @ 2300Mhz and 512 Samsung PC3200 and I got 6058 on 3dMark03. I Checked out this review http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_con...r9800pro&page=6
by GamePC and they got a 5542 3dMark03 score using a P4 3.06GHz and a stock 9800 Pro. Not too shabby! So if you're lucky enough to find someone, maybe a family member or friend, who wants to buy a Dell Dimension 4600, 8300 or XPS system but don't want a really fast 3d vid card, GO BUY THIS VIDEO CARD FROM THEM AND SAVE YOURSELF 300 BUCKS!!!
 

kamz

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thats good but im in london man...
who do i know thats gonna buy a pc in america....:mad:
 

MassiveOverkill

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Well, it's not $110, unless the Dell he bought also comes with onboard video, and the person who bought it is happy with onboard video..........otherwise, you'd have to buy a GeForce4MX400 for about 50 bucks, which would bring it up to $160, which is still a good deal.
 

12si

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Meh.....IMO, only idiots who don't treasure/know the real power of their 9800 will sell it for $110
 
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wakkadss

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Doh! Sorry there Kamz. As far as I know only dell sells these 9800 NonPros.

Massive Overkill, you don't have to spend another $50 bucks....just give them your old card. :D That will be good enough for them.

Another idea is if your company is buying new computers and it happens to be a 4600 or the 8300. You might be able to work something out with your boss.....well, if your boss is cool.
 

FrozenFears

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Argh! I wish I knew someone who was buying a pc like that, I want a 9800 but don't have the $400 to spend right now, if I could get it for $110-$160 though, I could sell off sommore of my belongings on ebay to scrounge up the cash hehe ;)
 

MassiveOverkill

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Just remember, the ATI cards that come with Dell computers aren't your run-of-the-mil cards, they are usually downgraded and although, they are still a good deal, you may not be able to OC them as much as a regular card. Some of Dell's ATI cards require specific drivers as well.
 

bdw8

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I'll buy it from you for $150... :)

Thats some good luck right there. I wouldn't mind having a 9800np for $110 even if its downgraded a little bit and requires special drivers.
 
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wakkadss

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It's doesn't seem to be downgraded in any other way than the core clock and mem clock. It performs just like a 9800 Pro when overclocked to 9800 Pro speeds. Keep in mind that the chip is a R350, which is designed to run at the speeds I'm running it at. It even overclocks well beyond the 9800 PRO stock speed. By the way, the Drivers I used are from ATI, Catalyst 3.4. I'm planning on buying a ThermalTake GIANT II when it comes out just to make sure the card is nice and cool while I overclock it pass 9800 Pro stock speeds :D
 

bdw8

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wannaoc said:
If it's 110.00 over the NVidia then you are just adding 110.00 to what you would pay them for the MX card.

Thats why its an optional UPGRADE. It still only cost 110.00 for him because thats the extra he paid for it.
 

CuriousOne

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Confirmed

Ordered a 4600 w/ the 9800 $110 upgrade on 5/28, got it yesterday. Installed 3.4 Cats, and the card is recognized as a 9800 PRO. Nice.
 

Mustanley

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I'm ordereing one today for work. It'll be coming with the 9800 pro option, but after I set it up, that 9800 may somehow turn into a Geforce3 Ti200 ;) :cool:
 

Mustanley

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This is very recent development. I just ordered a Dell last week and that option wasn't there. I saw it this morning, so I came on the forums looking for info on a non-pro 9800 since I couldn't find any info on the ATI website. It'll be interesting to find out if there are any real differences between this version and the 9800 pro.