replcement 8350 fitting.

[kevvy]

hi all, as some of you know im going to be upgrading my 8120 with 8350, can some one tell me please,is it a straight swap, ie will i need to do anything in bios after fitting or will my mother board sort its self out, i also noticed that my 8120 is running at 3.4 instead of 3.1 , ?? i have not ocd at all and have not got no oc programs, do some of the same processors run diff from the factory, i have not got asus suite i deleted it, any ideas please tnx chaps and chapesses

 

[ATMINSIDE]

It's a straight swap

 

[Johan45]

That speed increase is part of the turbo function. That CPU will go to 3.4 with all cores and up to 4.0 with 4 or less.
When I swap CPUs I tear it all down and install the CPU, then before you switch it on but with the power on, hit the CMOS clear button on the back of your board. Actually is that a formula z or just the formula. Either way clear the CMOS and then start up. You won't need a bios update or anything like that. Windows will likely need a restart as well.

 

[ATMINSIDE]

Just be sure to set your memory and boot device after clearing the CMOS

 

[kevvy]

Just be sure to set your memory and boot device after clearing the CMOS

memory,??? just ordered my 8350 be here Tuesday, so all will going in then, looking forward to getting it running sweet ,not that it dont now, but i did get farcry 4 running at 95 fps ,without ant stuttering, but had like a shadow over the graphics then it goes and then comes back randomly any ideas what would cause that ?? thanks

 

[RGone]

Here is where I am today...

...I see the move to FX-8350 from an FX-8120 and eveything considered overall, that 'may' give you a slight boost in FPS. My guess is less than 15FPS. What we have all been doing in helping most that come into the forum is to get them to an overclock that works day in and day out for 24/7 usage. Get the easy extra OOmph that is in most of the FX processors. Try and get the FX series of processor to 'somewhat' catchup to the i5 Intel processors in gaming.

So you move up to an FX-8350 that is supposed to have a default speed of 4.0Ghz. Theoretically that will be about 600Mhz faster than what your FX-8120 was running. But an FX-8350 can run another 400Mhz faster without any real fanfare and some of these later FX-8350s seem to do that added 400Mhz maybe without any real increase in Cpu Voltage. Little to no cpu voltage increase anyway at around 4.4Ghz overclocked speed.

Then a little easy juggling of the HT Ref Clock and the CPU-NB will be raised (maybe a big PLUS when running in SLI mode). Raising the HT Ref Clock will also raise the ram speed slightly and should be a help in your situation since you are only running DDR3-1600 if I can remember your specs since I don't see specs in your user created signature. Yes the HT Link speed would rise slightly as well but in general it is not so much of a performance enhancer, but some across the net say that HT Link Speed can help some little bit in running dual cards in linked mode.

I guess what I am saying is that I never would spend any money just to move from an FX-8120 to an FX-8350 just hoping for better gaming. A relatively cheap Intel i5 setup would bring more true FPS gaming rewards to the table. In my opinion. Then since you have one the "best" and really the 'easiest' motherboards in the world for overclocking an 8 core FX processor...you did seem to say you had the Asus CHV board be it z or non-z mobo; it is a shame to leave any FPS on the table when 4.4Ghz is so d*mned easy to get with an FX-8350 and not leave even more extra performance laying around unused. Your buddies i5 blasting along with all those frames is what got you thinking to upgrade but you will never catch him with AMD and you leave an even wider gap when you don't punch that FX-8350 up some by giving it what is really only a gentle nudge in the ribs and not even a kick in the seat of the pants.

See I work and help in the AMD forum sections all the time. i don't give two or even three shetts about Intel. I know how to make any setup get up and go given an adjustable motherboard. So because I do AMD, when you see me say Intel might be better...well I am not kidding. It is your focus on the FPS and 144Mhz monitor that is going to leave you feeling sort of let down after just a move to FX-8350.

I really am almost of the idea that your monies would have been better spent on a new video card of greater power and sold off your two 760's in SLI and pooled all the money from their sale and what you were going to put into buying an FX-8350 and bought a more powerful single video ard and the FPS increase would have been greater.

But that is me thinking outloud after seeing and helping with 1,000s of users. I might be just a little short of second base still but I am slidiing in now to avoid being tagged out.
RGone...ster.

 

[kevvy]

RGone, you make so much sence, but i have brought the cards new 2 weeks ago after loads of reading up on them, so i have to live with them, i do not want to go with intel,as i dont enjoy the thought of the price, wish i had of asked on here before i brought them,but what is done ect, so dont get me wrong the cards work fine better than my old 670,s. as you say there is always ocing the cards, and from what i read they will oc quite good, as i said in one of my other posts i will get into ocing as i will have a decent system from where to start, do i save up for faster ram?? better psu if im ocing?? my set up is very quick for day to day stuff,so happy there, RGone you help is much welcome and i thank you for all your hard work as well as everyone else that gives the time to us twonks that are learning true gents, my set up is in my sig, so dont know why you cant see it ??

 

[Johan45]

The PSU and ram are fine kevvy. RGone is right about the cards but that irrelevant at this point in time. I still feel the best thing you could do is, when ready OC the cards a bit, cut 4 cores o n the CPU and open that thing up as far as your cooling will let you. The 8350 will be an improvement, it has a higher clock and also an improved IPC over the 8120. Just don't expect a huge gain or you'll be disappointed. When you're ready come back and we'll help you along through the whole process. RGone makes some good points about the busses. I found that HT speed really did help with my SLI setup and you have the board to pull it off.

 

[kevvy]

cheers for that, look forward to seeing what WE can get out of my setup ,enjoy ur weekend chaps, and thankyou

 

[RGone]

Okay...

...okay I said there was an Intel setup that intrigued me and here it is. I am not showing the prices or what it is but it is there in the links. I have no intention of getting this monster because I would also feel the need of at least a $550.00 video card. Hehehe.

Why I don't do Intel since this is the minimum setup that allows for all the adjustability that I like to have in a mobo and cpu. Minimum level of intrigue for me.
Check those dollars...

CPU > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117402

Mobo > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132260 >> With overclock socket.

OR > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157539

Ram > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233729

And I would need a new water block to fit this socket. You count those dollars up for my idea of an Intel setup that intrigues me...well I think you get the picture. Hehehe.
RGone...ster.

EDIT:
Yes I know what I like and the why even.
END EDIT.

 

[Johan45]

You to kevvy, see ya next week when you're ready to rumble.

 

[kevvy]

...okay I said there was an Intel setup that intrigued me and here it is. I am not showing the prices or what it is but it is there in the links. I have no intention of getting this monster because I would also feel the need of at least a $550.00 video card. Hehehe.

Why I don't do Intel since this is the minimum setup that allows for all the adjustability that I like to have in a mobo and cpu. Minimum level of intrigue for me.
Check those dollars...

CPU > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117402

Mobo > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132260 >> With overclock socket.

OR > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157539

Ram > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233729

And I would need a new water block to fit this socket. You count those dollars up for my idea of an Intel setup that intrigues me...well I think you get the picture. Hehehe.
RGone...ster.

EDIT:
Yes I know what I like and the why even.
END EDIT.

wow loads of money, you can add
25% to that cost here in uk, can i put ddr4 in my m/b ???

 

[ATMINSIDE]

can i put ddr4 in my m/b ???

Nope, only DDR3

 

[bassnut]

...okay I said there was an Intel setup that intrigued me and here it is. I am not showing the prices or what it is but it is there in the links. I have no intention of getting this monster because I would also feel the need of at least a $550.00 video card. Hehehe.

Why I don't do Intel since this is the minimum setup that allows for all the adjustability that I like to have in a mobo and cpu. Minimum level of intrigue for me.
Check those dollars...

CPU > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117402

Mobo > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132260 >> With overclock socket.

OR > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157539

Ram > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233729

And I would need a new water block to fit this socket. You count those dollars up for my idea of an Intel setup that intrigues me...well I think you get the picture. Hehehe.
RGone...ster.

EDIT:
Yes I know what I like and the why even.
END EDIT.

Yup it sure adds up fast RGone ...... actually we are / were thinking quite similar other then I was looking at an mATX board not too long ago, dang I even had it all in a shopping cart ready to go and just couldn't do it.

 

[RGone]

just couldn't do it.

I had a couple of good 1366 Intel platforms and I know what a good bios looks like as to what you can adjust. SandyB, IvyB & Hazewell just don't do it for "me". Nothing since 1366 but the "-E" rips it for me. And then I cannot see the money. I am not racing anymore and I cannot bog my FX-8350 down when doing my home video edits.

I have it to where I can render my video to mp4 at a ratio of 1:3. Meaning for every three seconds of video to be rendered, it takes 1 second to render. And that at only 4.6Ghz with a C-type air cooler on my Exercise in Futility rig; that did not turn out so very futile. Hehehe.
RGone...ster.