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im already eyeballin a 3060Ti priced at $310 BIN on ebay or the 3070 at $380 BIN. i get these cards have a 90% chance they were used for mining.
 
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i've been eyeballing these b stock

oof, still more then i want to spend, but yea 1yr warranty, you know they work. i am waiting to see if my offer is accepted by a seller, offered $275 for 3060Ti were he said it was mined on and no returns. if he doesnt think that offer is fair for those 2 things, he can get bent.
 

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yeah, these RTX 4k cards are monsters... all the 4080s and 4090s i've seen so far are all the size of the 3090s.
and their power connectors are awkwardly in the middle, near the end of the board. the boards are maybe the size of a 240 rad, but the heatsinks extend well beyond that. guess i'll have to try to figure out something that doesn't look too horrible. the power connector wires are probably going to cover some fo the RGB unless i go verticle, but then the RGB will look weird.
ugh... that reminds me... i'll need new pcie 5.0 connector too. i only hope that cablemods will offer the 600W cable for my thor 1200 (pre-pcie 5.0 cable model). they currently offer the 450W cable

EDIT: so it looks like cablemods offers a 12pin connector for the 3090ti and a seperate 12 pin connector for the 3090 NON- ti, for my PSU. I wonder if they just typo'd and meant 16-pin (12+4) connector, because as far as i know, a standard 12 pin connector is not advisable for the 3090ti... the connector for 3090ti needs the +4 on the GPU side and the 3x8pin to the PSU...

Does anybody know if the 600W (12+4) cable can be used on the lower watt GPUs? (i'm wondering about mechanical spacing on the +4 pin part of the connector.) will it physically fit on the cards? or is any part of the heatsink in the way, preventing the connector from being plugged in? I ask because i'm thinking about buying a cable from Cablemods in preperation for the new cards. ~$35US. i'm also considering waiting until they specifically mention cables for the RTX 40x0 series...
 

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yeah, these RTX 4k cards are monsters... all the 4080s and 4090s i've seen so far are all the size of the 3090s.
and their power connectors are awkwardly in the middle, near the end of the board. the boards are maybe the size of a 240 rad, but the heatsinks extend well beyond that. guess i'll have to try to figure out something that doesn't look too horrible. the power connector wires are probably going to cover some fo the RGB unless i go verticle, but then the RGB will look weird.
ugh... that reminds me... i'll need new pcie 5.0 connector too. i only hope that cablemods will offer the 600W cable for my thor 1200 (pre-pcie 5.0 cable model). they currently offer the 450W cable

EDIT: so it looks like cablemods offers a 12pin connector for the 3090ti and a seperate 12 pin connector for the 3090 NON- ti, for my PSU. I wonder if they just typo'd and meant 16-pin (12+4) connector, because as far as i know, a standard 12 pin connector is not advisable for the 3090ti... the connector for 3090ti needs the +4 on the GPU side and the 3x8pin to the PSU...

Does anybody know if the 600W (12+4) cable can be used on the lower watt GPUs? (i'm wondering about mechanical spacing on the +4 pin part of the connector.) will it physically fit on the cards? or is any part of the heatsink in the way, preventing the connector from being plugged in? I ask because i'm thinking about buying a cable from Cablemods in preperation for the new cards. ~$35US. i'm also considering waiting until they specifically mention cables for the RTX 40x0 series...
Pretty sure when you buy a card that needs one, it comes in the box (anyone else still have molex to PCIe connectors from old GPUs?). :)

Also, before anyone posts about 30 connection cycles on these connectors, that's the same spec for 8-pcie connections. As a mobo reviewer, I've gone well past the 30 cycles, FWIW... ;)
 

Dolk

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Y'all need to get ready to watercool these things. Especially if you going to daily use it at 100% for long stretches. I'm getting tired of these companies not pushing for the right changes. All the tech is there for them to mass market watercooling like air, but I guess its too big of an investment.

Bottom half of your chassis will be dedicated to air cooling by RTX 6000 lol.
 

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Pretty sure when you buy a card that needs one, it comes in the box (anyone else still have molex to PCIe connectors from old GPUs?). :)

Also, before anyone posts about 30 connection cycles on these connectors, that's the same spec for 8-pcie connections. As a mobo reviewer, I've gone well past the 30 cycles, FWIW... ;)
yeah, they DO come in the box... but those are usually adapters that have 3 bundles of wires coming straight off the 12/+4 plug right off the GPU, and are fugly. at least the cablemods cables are individually sleeved from the GPU connector all the way to the PSU connector, and look toins better in a windowed case. if the side panel were solid, not see-through, the adapter that comes with the GPU would be fine, but all visible cables in the main compartment of Forgotten Legend are individually sleeved. most are cablemods cables, but a few (like the 8pin CPU cables) are individually sleeved extensions.
 

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Right, some look better than others, no doubt. Just clarifying that it's not a requirement to buy one as they will come with the GPUs. :)
 
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after looking $100 more from the 3090 to the 4090 over all isnt that big a cost increase. i dont see it that way, your already spent 1400 on that last one, if the jump is that big in performance it should be worth it.
 
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picked up what the sell says is a Dell 2060 super for $225+tax. going to use that for both, gaming and folding. that should put me off a bit longer for a 4070 depending on price or 4060 TI. i have this feeling the memory BW is going to be the same as the 4060 which just on that alone is going to be around 3060Ti performance. im starting to think the 4060 just on the "current" speculated numbers it will even get into 4070/4070Ti area.
 

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yeah, they DO come in the box... but those are usually adapters that have 3 bundles of wires coming straight off the 12/+4 plug right off the GPU, and are fugly. at least the cablemods cables are individually sleeved from the GPU connector all the way to the PSU connector, and look toins better in a windowed case. if the side panel were solid, not see-through, the adapter that comes with the GPU would be fine, but all visible cables in the main compartment of Forgotten Legend are individually sleeved. most are cablemods cables, but a few (like the 8pin CPU cables) are individually sleeved extensions.
For what it's worth, I thought I read/saw that the connector for these is different then the 3 series FE cards. So what cablemods could be offering is just the 3 series one for now?
 
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you guys watch this on the new 4000's power cables or what is going to be needed?

rather interesting new psu spec allows the gpu to talk to the psu.

when i saw GN vide or was it a different channel on the power spikes on the gpus. i thought why not just make some power storage that plugs into the psu to gpu. being like a small bank of super caps are on a board then psu to board then board to gpu. i would figure this would help with the power spike since it will be storing power till it needs it.
 

Dolk

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PSU Communication is all about end to end power understanding. Input power (PSU) can indicate what type of surges, sagging, or abnormal behaviors are actively occurring, while the GPU communicates how much power it is using. Spikes become manageable in this topology, you get the peaks but they are less spiky and more rounded. Lots of good stuff for protection. Not so great for Overclockers like usual.

I'd listen to what these YT guys are saying. Grab the ATX 3.0 PSUs for any new GPUs.