Shall I get the 13700k with the reported issue ?

[R1S8K]

Hi,

I just bought the 13700k and it's now in the forward shipping office. And while I was checking youtube videos about 13th and 14th gen cpus and I noticed people are talking about issue with instability and degradation of the cpu performance with time of continuous on time.

What should I do now ? should I return it and get the 12th gen i7 ?

 

[EarthDog]

Is your cpu new? Then you have nothing to worry about if you update the bios on the board. If it's used... you have a chance, but it's still highly unlikely.

I wouldnt avoid these CPUs, no.

 

[R1S8K]

It's still in the box in the USA and I didn't ship it to Saudi Arabia yet I'm really worried because it's an expensive investment.

I really want to go with the safe way and get the 12700k.

 

[EarthDog]

I really want to go with the safe way and get the 12700k.

If it's new, it's 100% safe with the new bios.

 

[R1S8K]

OK, well mission easy now I don't have to do anything and let the flow continues.

 

[infinitevalence]

man... IDK personally I would not buy any 13th or 14th gen products because it does not seem like they have actually identified the issue. The BIOS fix seems more like a bandaid than a fix.

 

[R1S8K]

Yep, my goal is playing cod and light video editing.

The 12700k is for sure a perfect choice and it was my first choice and I saw a drop in thr 13700k price for $304, then I read about this issue.

 

[EarthDog]

man... IDK personally I would not buy any 13th or 14th gen products because it does not seem like they have actually identified the issue. The BIOS fix seems more like a bandaid than a fix.

I thought they had. There's a fix out for it.

Again... if you're buying this chip new, you shouldn't have any issues so long as you update the bios. They're also extending warranties.

When new, applying the microcode/bios update is a preventative measure and the chip won't degrade faster than usual. When applied to a used chip, it's to prevent further unnatural degredation. There's some risk with a used chip, but none with used.

 

[R1S8K]

How the degrade will go ? I have my i7 4770k running for almost 10 years and still working, will the i7 13700k degrade faster than this time ?

Anyway I kept the CPU is the shipment and it's on the way.

 

[infinitevalence]

How the degrade will go ? I have my i7 4770k running for almost 10 years and still working, will the i7 13700k degrade faster than this time ?

Anyway I kept the CPU is the shipment and it's on the way.

That is the fear. There is concern that the BIOS/Microcode update drops the voltage just enough to reduce the degradation to a point where the CPU's will fail after warranties expire. It is possibly fine, we dont have any clear evidence that this is true or the case. But we also dont know exactly what went wrong, Intel did not detail the reason for the failures only the mitigation.

If you are really concerned then I would do some extra research and see what suggestions are out there for reducing risk. I think some people have suggested disabling E-Cores, as well as reducing cpu voltage even more than Intel has.

 

[R1S8K]

Oh wow, I guess I wish I returned it and got the 12700k. I will try to call the shipping company to see if they can stop the shipping.

I really don't want to disable the E-cores, otherwise I think the 12700k will better than the 13700k in this regard.

 

[]-[itman]

That is the fear. There is concern that the BIOS/Microcode update drops the voltage just enough to reduce the degradation to a point where the CPU's will fail after warranties expire. It is possibly fine, we dont have any clear evidence that this is true or the case. But we also dont know exactly what went wrong, Intel did not detail the reason for the failures only the mitigation.

If you are really concerned then I would do some extra research and see what suggestions are out there for reducing risk. I think some people have suggested disabling E-Cores, as well as reducing cpu voltage even more than Intel has.

Yes, the fix has yet to be independently verified and Intel actually never guaranteed the microcode update will resolve the issue (they carefully worded it to make it seem like they root-caused the problem without actually saying that). The microcode very well could resolve the issue for new CPUs, but there really hasn't been enough time or testing to verify if the issue is fixed now or not.

 

[R1S8K]

I called the shipping company and they can't stop it.

I can still return it to Amazon when it arrives, I don't know how much that will cost me.

Still thinking the 12700k is the safe route and can overclock it with the thermalright pearless assassin.

 

[]-[itman]

I called the shipping company and they can't stop it.

I can still return it to Amazon when it arrives, I don't know how much that will cost me.

Still thinking the 12700k is the safe route and can overclock it with the thermalright pearless assassin.

The good news is that Intel extended the warranty period to 5 years for 13th and 14th gen CPUs, so even if your CPU ends up having an issue, you can get a replacement for at least 5 years. The only downside is obviously that you may have to wait for the replacement part if your CPU is/goes bad and at least lately, the waiting period on CPUs seems to be substantial due to all the warranty claims in a short period of time (this should clear up in the future but is a problem near term). If the possibility of this situation is something you don't want to deal with and you just want to be confident in the CPU working for many years into the future, then returning it for the 12700K probably makes sense.

 

[R1S8K]

At this point, I don't know actually what to do. Should I return it as it arrives ? I don't think so, I will install it and enjoy it and I hope to not get into the bluescreens and crashes that's my only concern.


I will try not to overclock it, I think 5.4GHz is more than enough for my gaming + my current GTX 1070 ti.

 

[EarthDog]

It's a NEW processor, right? Updated bios, yes? Then you should worry as much as if you had bought 12th gen from the get. There's no reason to think otherwise with the mitigation efforts in place on a new processor.

Enjoy that processor!

 

[R1S8K]

I will

Thanks for enforcing my hopes.

 

[Brando]

It'll probably be like the melting connector thing with nvidia cards. The internet makes it seem like the sky is falling but then it turns out to be nothing.

 

[R1S8K]

The package is coming, left the US and just arrived in my country.

At this point, I started to be impressed with AMD processors especially the 7900x3d seems to be a beast of a processor with a similar price but I already bought the i7.

 

[Brando]

Any reason your aren't waiting for arrow lake? It's supposed to be out soon.