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kevmarks

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my word, this baby is HOT!

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this is currently under load, the system is as follows

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I am using, a 2w 80mm sunnon pushing air in the front of the case. And a lower speed (1.4w) pulling air out of the back of the case. On top of th CPU is a Swiftech MCXC370 on top of the heatsink is a 60mm fan from of my old Thermaltake volcano 5.

Anybody and ideas? I have remounted the heatsink a few times. I am using a small amount of ASII etc..

thanks in advance for your help :)
 

David

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youch. 65C :eek:

Try opening a window, turning off heating or repositioning the case. My friend has an XP1500+ - stuffed in a corner usually hits 62C within 10 mins.
 

JFettig

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put a bigger fan on that thing, there isnt much room for air to move thru that heatsink and im thinking that air doesnt move through it with that small fan.... put one of your 80s on it,
 
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kevmarks

kevmarks

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The PC is sat on my desk. It was even hotter on the floor as we have under floor heating. I might replace the rear 1.4w fan with a 2.8w 92mm fan blowing in. and have the psu and front fans blowing out. My fiend tried something simular and his PC got hotter.

I think the rear fan should always be pushing air out. But to keep up with a 2.8w 92mm sucking out I will have to inverse the PSU fan to keep the right amount of air moving in to the case. So I would end up pushing hot air in to the case. I don't think I can cool this baby anymore without case modding. I have no dremel, or drill

:(
 

NASsoccer

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hmm lap the HSf and put a fresh coat of artic silver on there. and then either buy rounded cables or make some, or if you have some get them all out of the way so that air from the front can get the to back of the case. Does you PSU have dual fans??

Also with temps like that a mod is usually needed IMO, and a blowhole(in) right over the CPU is the answer and blowhole (out) at the top.

Also, consider a bigger fan and an adapter for the HSF, if you can afford it get and AX-7 as it will do a much better job than the 370.
 

JFettig

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if rounded cables is what you want ill make you some! i make really nice ones!!!

i cant get a good pic of them inside my case cince my cam is CRAP

but heres one outside of it...
 

JFettig

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if rounded cables is what you want ill make you some! i make really nice ones!!! the tubing is clear!

i cant get a good pic of them inside my case cince my cam is CRAP

but heres one outside of it...
 

Maximus Nickus

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Do a search for my Thread "Cooling-The Definitive Guide", I assure you it will help you cool that chip without modding.

If you need any help please ask. (after reading the thread:D)
Sorry I haven't posted a link but I have to go offline rather quickly so I haven't had the time! (sorry)


M_N
 

NASsoccer

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Maximus Nickus said:
Do a search for my Thread "Cooling-The Definitive Guide", I assure you it will help you cool that chip without modding.

If you need any help please ask. (after reading the thread:D)
Sorry I haven't posted a link but I have to go offline rather quickly so I haven't had the time! (sorry)


M_N

i'll pick-up your slack M_N ;) here is that link .
 
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kevmarks

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wow, thanks for the help guys. I have put in my 2.8 watt 92mm fan pushing air in the back of the case. The front 80mm will not blow air out of the case, due to the design of the case. I know that sounds weird, but you have to see the case to understand. I ended up just pulling the plug on that one. made no difference to temps :).

now at 59c load :) might try and clock it up a little more.
 

Yodums

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Sounds like your not using thermal compound... A case with the panels closed with no airflow would average in the lower 50's.

Yodums
 

Bantre

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Long shot as its a different motherboard, but my mcxc370 flexed my cpu socket cause the length was much longer then it was designed to be( folded up into center).
Looking from the side it actually flexed the CPU and was not making good contact at all. I switched back to a vantec 6035 for now and temps are 20c lower.

Yes I had thermal paste etc, I know what yer all thinking, the 3 tab clips on either side of the heatsink actually angled off about 20/24 degrees to hit the tabs, the socket was that long:(, or rather the heatsink was that short.

So make sure it fits the socket and clears the mounting plate over the lever control as well, it has a shallow sink area ( even though a long cut out) that may not be fully clearing the plastic.
 

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shes too hot

I suggest that a PC case now should always be near the floor because heat rises. If you dont have tools to case mod find someone who does. The CPU model is important too. The difference between the TBird, Duron and the Athlon XPxxxx+ is the XP series gives off less heat. For case modding I would put a "blow hole" at top center and mount a "Smart" or thermal variable RPM fan for exhaust. I would also cut 1 or 2 holes on the floor (bottom) of case and put a manual control RPM 80MM fan there (line it up with the CPU-HSF and top "blow hole"). Since the quietest fans are the 80MM type use them. Forget those lateral (side fans in the front and rear) fans. They are almost useless.
Most new cases come with a fan mounted at the side (pointed at CPU) and another one at top (for exhaust). I would consider this the minimal cooling setup. But when summer comes you WILL need more!
ec.
 

AZN

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I have a 1.33 amd and i just bought a MCX370 and it did poorly. I think do to poor contact to the CPU. I think ur first mistake is using the fan from your TK volcano. I dont think that fan is good enough, try a Ys tech 40CFM fan. Instead of the MCX370, i used the Y's tech fan combined with my volcano and is now running at 38c idle and 42c Load. Did i mention im OCed 211mhz. I guess the volcano has a better HS to CPU contact i dont know how to explain it but it did better then the swiftech MCX370. I dont know i could be wrong, but i would if u can try a different Heatsink.
 

David

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Yodums said:
Sounds like your not using thermal compound... A case with the panels closed with no airflow would average in the lower 50's.

Yodums

Little airflow, Tbird 1100, crammed in a corner - 50C max under load. Went down from 52C when I took it off of the floor and onto my desk.
 
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kevmarks

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ok, lets rule out the putting it on the floor theory. I HAVE UNDER FLOOR HEATING!!!. Putting it on the floor is like putting it on top of a Radiator. Hot water is pumped through pipes under the floor, which run up and down the room. Keeps my feet warm :) .

I don't think 59C is to bad for a 1.4 T-Bird overclocked to 1.53 with 170Mhz FSB. I will look at my heatsink mounting tonight.

unfortunately, my xfs server in Linux has screwed up. Meaning I have no fonts. no fonts means no ximian gnome. No gnome means having to use crappy windows to surf the internet etc. I think this problem takes priority right now, but I will be back on the case very soon.
 

JFettig

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actually 59c is HORRIBLE! sorry to tell ya that... with that setup you should be getting around 40c max! with a better fan..