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ZL1

Senior Crypto Caretaker
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I just don't know much about the security of all this, so I am covering the bases.

you do now :) port 5555 on pools is SSL so all traffic between miner and pool is encrypted, no one can open it and say change your address or anything, but like I said, small chance someone will try for 100mhs :) huge farms which push tons of ghs would worry, but even then, SSL helps
 

Janus67

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I can't remember, is your 3090 an FE? If so, that could be why it's throttling on the memory. When I had my 3080 FE I had to have the fan at least at 80% to not have it throttle. I ended up doing a memory pad addition to the back of the card which also helped a bit but didnt make a huge difference in terms of how much lower I could set fan speeds.

When I switched to my FTW3s I can have fans at 60% or lower and basically silent.

 
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tRidiot

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No, mine is an FTW3.


My average is reporting at 113 now, so I'm happier with that.
 
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tRidiot

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So I've reached 0.02001 ETH in about 72h. I think that's pretty good, personally, with a single miner. That equates to about 2.65ETH annually (I know, assuming no changes in difficulty, etc.).

So 1 ETH about every 137 days or so. I would assume that's a pretty decent production.
 

ZL1

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So I've reached 0.02001 ETH in about 72h. I think that's pretty good, personally, with a single miner. That equates to about 2.65ETH annually (I know, assuming no changes in difficulty, etc.).

So 1 ETH about every 137 days or so. I would assume that's a pretty decent production.

about right, my 120mhs rig does about 0.25eth a month
I do recommend you dont estimate longer than a month though, difficulty is constantly changing and more importantly fees change + eth devs plan to change the fee structure and cut the miners in half :( but thats another story of what greed does to people and how easily money makes you forget where you started
 
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tRidiot

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about right, my 120mhs rig does about 0.25eth a month
I do recommend you dont estimate longer than a month though, difficulty is constantly changing and more importantly fees change + eth devs plan to change the fee structure and cut the miners in half :( but thats another story of what greed does to people and how easily money makes you forget where you started

True. Yeah I know those numbers are 'projected' based on today's stuff. And it's always changing.
 
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tRidiot

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Ok, so I've switched from EU to US, but it looks like my effective speed at the pool has gone down dramatically in spite of my reported hashrate being about the same...

So here's an excerpt from my logfile when using the EU pool:

2021.03.18:03:37:57.554: main *** 82:42 *** 3/18 03:37 **************************************
2021.03.18:03:37:57.554: main Eth: Mining ETH on eu1.ethermine.org:4444 for 18:39
2021.03.18:03:37:57.554: main Eth: Accepted shares 8777 (4 stales), rejected shares 1 (0 stales)
2021.03.18:03:37:57.554: main Eth: Incorrect shares 0 (0.00%), est. stales percentage 0.05%
2021.03.18:03:37:57.554: main Eth: Maximum difficulty of found share: 20.0 TH (!!!)
2021.03.18:03:37:57.554: main Eth: Average speed (5 min): 117.172 MH/s
2021.03.18:03:37:57.554: main Eth: Effective speed: 117.93 MH/s; at pool: 117.92 MH/s

and another one:

2021.03.19:09:38:25.944: main *** 112:42 *** 3/19 09:38 **************************************
2021.03.19:09:38:25.944: main Eth: Mining ETH on us1.ethermine.org:4444 for 0:12
2021.03.19:09:38:25.944: main Eth: Accepted shares 11930 (4 stales), rejected shares 2 (0 stales)
2021.03.19:09:38:25.944: main Eth: Incorrect shares 0 (0.00%), est. stales percentage 0.03%
2021.03.19:09:38:25.944: main Eth: Maximum difficulty of found share: 36.2 TH (!!!)
2021.03.19:09:38:25.944: main Eth: Average speed (5 min): 121.556 MH/s
2021.03.19:09:38:25.944: main Eth: Effective speed: 117.63 MH/s; at pool: 117.61 MH/s


Then looking at what I'm doing now on the US pool:

2021.03.19:17:18:59.575: main *** 0:03 *** 3/19 17:18 **************************************
2021.03.19:17:18:59.575: main Eth: Mining ETH on ssl://us1.ethermine.org:5555 for 0:03
2021.03.19:17:18:59.575: main Eth: Accepted shares 4 (0 stales), rejected shares 0 (0 stales)
2021.03.19:17:18:59.575: main Eth: Incorrect shares 0 (0.00%), est. stales percentage 0.00%
2021.03.19:17:18:59.575: main Eth: Maximum difficulty of found share: 2055.2 GH (!)
2021.03.19:17:18:59.575: main Eth: Average speed (5 min): 120.574 MH/s
2021.03.19:17:18:59.575: main Eth: Effective speed: 70.80 MH/s; at pool: 70.80 MH/s

and another:

2021.03.19:17:20:29.787: main *** 0:05 *** 3/19 17:20 **************************************
2021.03.19:17:20:29.787: main Eth: Mining ETH on ssl://us1.ethermine.org:5555 for 0:05
2021.03.19:17:20:29.787: main Eth: Accepted shares 6 (0 stales), rejected shares 0 (0 stales)
2021.03.19:17:20:29.787: main Eth: Incorrect shares 0 (0.00%), est. stales percentage 0.00%
2021.03.19:17:20:29.787: main Eth: Maximum difficulty of found share: 2055.2 GH (!)
2021.03.19:17:20:29.787: main Eth: Average speed (5 min): 120.787 MH/s
2021.03.19:17:20:29.787: main Eth: Effective speed: 75.95 MH/s; at pool: 75.95 MH/s


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Ok. So in letting it run for a bit, it looks like what it's reporting as "Effective speed" is a cumulative average, as it does appear to be going up:

2021.03.19:17:39:17.838: main *** 0:24 *** 3/19 17:39 **************************************
2021.03.19:17:39:17.838: main Eth: Mining ETH on ssl://us1.ethermine.org:5555 for 0:24
2021.03.19:17:39:17.838: main Eth: Accepted shares 34 (0 stales), rejected shares 0 (0 stales)
2021.03.19:17:39:17.838: main Eth: Incorrect shares 0 (0.00%), est. stales percentage 0.00%
2021.03.19:17:39:17.838: main Eth: Maximum difficulty of found share: 2055.2 GH (!)
2021.03.19:17:39:17.838: main Eth: Average speed (5 min): 119.247 MH/s
2021.03.19:17:39:17.838: main Eth: Effective speed: 94.18 MH/s; at pool: 94.18 MH/s




That makes me feel a bit better. lol
 
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tRidiot

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So the log file keeps a log of everything. Is this something I need to turn on or off, does it always run in the background forever? It's a new logfile for each time I open it and start the miner. Should I delete old ones? The last one is 101,000kb, should these be cleaned out? It took about 30 seconds to open that one, I'd imagine the files will be pretty big if running for weeks or months.
 

ZL1

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So the log file keeps a log of everything. Is this something I need to turn on or off, does it always run in the background forever? It's a new logfile for each time I open it and start the miner. Should I delete old ones? The last one is 101,000kb, should these be cleaned out? It took about 30 seconds to open that one, I'd imagine the files will be pretty big if running for weeks or months.

up to you, I just leave em tbh, til I upgrade the miner, then its a new folder anyway :))
 
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tRidiot

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This is a pretty cool hobby - I can see why this gets addictive! My son came in and asked me how I was doing, how much money I've made, etc. I pulled up current ETH rate, my current amt cumulative and then extrapolated approximate electricity costs over the 6 days I've been running it at ~315W.

My cost for electricity expended (at the card, not the wall, I know) is about $4.54. Estimated value in ETH shares right now (0.04174) is $75.79.

Not too bad, I guess. My son is amazed. lol




Now I need to figure out how to set up a script to automatically start the miner on his computer (RTX 2070 Super) at 10PM and run to noon the next day - he is allowed to use his machine from 12PM till 9:30PM. Any pointers on how to automate something like that?
 

ZL1

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This is a pretty cool hobby. My son came in and asked me how I was doing, how much money I've made, etc. I pulled up current ETH rate, my current amt cumulative and then extrapolated approximate electricity costs over the 6 days I've been running it at ~315W.

My cost for electricity expended (at the card, not the wall, I know) is about $4.54. Estimated value in ETH shares right now (0.04174) is $75.79.

Not too bad, I guess.




Now I need to figure out how to set up a script to automatically start the miner on his computer (RTX 2070 Super) at 10PM and run to noon the next day - he is allowed to use his machine from 12PM till 9:30PM. Any pointers on how to automate something like that?

haha, ya it is, addictive too :))

ya, you can do that with windows scheduling, but its not that easy + the PC will be on all the time .. you sure he wont use it ;)
 
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tRidiot

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haha, ya it is, addictive too :))

ya, you can do that with windows scheduling, but its not that easy + the PC will be on all the time .. you sure he wont use it ;)

Well, he has to log in to his Windows user account to play his games and such. Yes, he could theoretically get on in the middle of the night and use it under my account if it is on - but it's easy enough to me to put a lockscreen password on it. That's why we had to lock it down, when we found him out there playing games at 4AM.
 

Blaylock

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You can use -pauseat HR:MM (24hr format) & -resumeat HR:MM to do that but the problem with that is it won't adjust your GPU settings.
 
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tRidiot

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Got my son's 2070 Super running last night, it's been doing about 35% of what my 3090 does. About half the power expenditure. A nice little boost to my production. He's all pissed at me because I'm not letting him make a wallet for himself and dump the coins into it for HIM. You know, since it's HIS computer and all - which we gave him for Christmas.


I'm crying for him over here, seriously, I am.
 

Blaylock

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It would be a great too to teach him investing. Learning which coins to exchange to ect. Just saying it might be an opportunity worth looking into.