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So, who's getting a 5XXX series card?

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I wonder how many cards they will have in-stock to make a trip worthwhile up Bethel early in the morning. Otherwise may just play the hotstock/discord notification gamble game
Not sure on count. But ive seen several skus loaded in the system already.

As far as timing for reviews... I haven't been told a date yet from anyone...
 
I go to MC for everything that I can these days. Its nice being able to grab things that I could just as easily have done through Newegg years ago. At least the prices are nearly always competitive these days. IMO MC is building up a loyal customer base by continuing to do these hot product releases with in store purchases. Its nice to have a place where I don't have to compete with scalpers.
 
Wish there were more major physical stores in UK. Nearest one I know of is at least 2+ hours away. So I'll be hitting F5 on launch day. My only hope is that supply is sufficient to keep up with demand, but the feeling I'm getting is this is getting more interest than 40 series launch did.
 
Wish there were more major physical stores in UK. Nearest one I know of is at least 2+ hours away. So I'll be hitting F5 on launch day. My only hope is that supply is sufficient to keep up with demand, but the feeling I'm getting is this is getting more interest than 40 series launch did.
I know what you mean. The likes of Curry's doesn't cut it. I don't even know what brick and mortar stores even exist here for this kind of thing.

This is one of the things I look forward to when going home as we have TWO MCs. :love:

Happy to mule things from time to time.
 
I know what you mean. The likes of Curry's doesn't cut it. I don't even know what brick and mortar stores even exist here for this kind of thing.
The nearest one to me would be Scan. Nearly 3 hours drive each way though. Big e-tailer with a showroom area which I visited once to check out gaming chairs. They handled the sales of 40 series FE on behalf on Nvidia. Couldn't find it on their site, had to go through NV's site, but they fulfilled the order.

Other one I know of would be Novatech in Portsmouth. That'll be something like 6+ hours drive for me. They're not the biggest either so I don't know what their stock will be like.

Ebuyer are not that far from me, but as far as I can tell from their web site they don't have a retail area on site.
 
The nearest one to me would be Scan. Nearly 3 hours drive each way though. Big e-tailer with a showroom area which I visited once to check out gaming chairs. They handled the sales of 40 series FE on behalf on Nvidia. Couldn't find it on their site, had to go through NV's site, but they fulfilled the order.

Other one I know of would be Novatech in Portsmouth. That'll be something like 6+ hours drive for me. They're not the biggest either so I don't know what their stock will be like.

Ebuyer are not that far from me, but as far as I can tell from their web site they don't have a retail area on site.
I'd not realized Scan had a showroom. I'd probably missed the option to pick up equating to an actual showroom. I buy from them often and never really paid too close attention to that.

It would be quicker to fly there for me though than to drive. :D
 
Don't like these prices, EU is showing anything from 1.2k to 1.7k for a 5080...

 
I'd be happy with the FE, less so with the same priced AIB, and I don't want anything additional. Well, the top Asus is nice as always, but you're really paying for it.
 
Don't like these prices, EU is showing anything from 1.2k to 1.7k for a 5080...


It won't be lower (at least not in the EU) because MSRP+VAT is at least ~€1.2K for the lowest or FE models. FE in the last two generations cost even more than many custom cards and are almost only available in Nvidia's store (where there is a limited stock or scalpers buy out what they can). Proshop also has higher-than-standard prices, and the store they linked has pretty high VAT—Finland has 25.5%. The EU has +/- 17-30% VAT, depending on the country, but it's usually counted in your country's tax (I mean, if I order from Germany, then they calculate my order with the Polish VAT, which is 23%).
 
I'm running a 4090 now...and have yet to play a game that pushes this card at 4K.

Heck, most games don't even cause the GPU to hit max clock speed.

The 575 watt TDP on the 5090 is ridiculous...it's a 125 W increase from the 4090.

Assuming 90% power efficiency, you are pulling 5.3 AMPS from the wall just to run this card.

I think NVIDIA needs to start looking at more efficiency versus just slapping more transistors into their GPU.
 
I'm running a 4090 now...and have yet to play a game that pushes this card at 4K.

Heck, most games don't even cause the GPU to hit max clock speed.

The 575 watt TDP on the 5090 is ridiculous...it's a 125 W increase from the 4090.

Assuming 90% power efficiency, you are pulling 5.3 AMPS from the wall just to run this card.

I think NVIDIA needs to start looking at more efficiency versus just slapping more transistors into their GPU.

AMD is even worse efficiency-wise. Maybe that's why they don't even try to match Nvidia with performance, or we would see 1kW GPUs. When RX7900XTX was released, AMD claimed it was on the same shelf as RTX4090. Somehow, it wasn't, and they started to compare it to lower cards.
 
"The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 will arrive soon. NVIDIA Thermal Engineer Malcolm Gutenburg joined us to show a number of RTX 5090 Founders Edition finished and prototype samples, including liquid metal, 3D vapor chambers with claimed world-first designs, and careful dual blow-through design of the finstack. This engineering deep-dive discussion gets into the details of thermal engineering for a 575W-capable cooler. While we haven't tested it yet, our review of the NVIDIA RTX 5090 will likely be in the works soon, and that'll include thermal benchmarking and testing. In the meantime, we'll go over the engineering details with Malcolm."

00:00 - The Box of RTX 5090 Mysteries
03:29 - Founders Edition Thermal Solution
06:32 - The PCB & Heatsink Design
12:53 - The Earliest Sample
14:55 - World First Vapor Chamber Design
20:45 - Liquid Metal Barrier Design
26:25 - PCB Design
30:59 - Disassembled RTX 5090 FE

 
Your not going to get more efficient GPUs because you literally can't make them more efficient without degrading their compute capabilities. The type of architecture doesn't allow it. You can save power when not using the device. Expect the highest end of hardware to continue to climb in power, and watch as the high end market turns.

Google Stadia was too early, but that technology will become the norm as most households won't be able to physically power modern hardware. I do not think it will happen anytime soon, but it will probably be the norm when people want to play @ 8K resolution or higher.

My guess is that low end market will slowly be taken over by the handhelds. We'll still have custom builds and OEMs for mid rang PCs that are for up to 4k gaming. But I wouldn't be surprised if we see more cloud based offerings that will support 8K and above. Only the people who can afford the power bills will be considering custom built hardware for 8K.
 
Your not going to get more efficient GPUs because you literally can't make them more efficient without degrading their compute capabilities. The type of architecture doesn't allow it. You can save power when not using the device. Expect the highest end of hardware to continue to climb in power, and watch as the high end market turns.
It's a simple cost tradeoff. Smaller silicon at high clocks is cheaper than bigger silicon at lower clocks. Power can be pushed for now because it is cheaper, but it will hit a limit, then other solutions will have to come into play. The general trend is every architecture gen gets more efficient, although where a specific product actually lies may not necessarily show that since direct comparisons are more difficult.

I view the current and incoming 90 class as a special use case anyway, and is irrelevant to the mass market. Once you get into more special niches, you can push the limits further. Sub 250W GPUs will be plenty fine for years to come, and they will grow in general performance.

My guess is that low end market will slowly be taken over by the handhelds. We'll still have custom builds and OEMs for mid rang PCs that are for up to 4k gaming. But I wouldn't be surprised if we see more cloud based offerings that will support 8K and above. Only the people who can afford the power bills will be considering custom built hardware for 8K.
I view handhelds as a specific gaming sub-category, in a similar way that mobile gaming is. There are limits to what you can reasonably do on a tiny screen and controller style controls.
 
I think low end computers will be handhelds because they can be. Not because it gives freedom to game anywhere. The hardware tradeoff is discrete vs dedicated GPU. Dedicated GPUs for handhelds are already a market and will probably grow. Gives a nice option to upgrade while saving money on the overall product, great for lower income players who need to buy over time instead of at once.

Power will continue to rise and is being planned on. In the R&D areas of tech, money is being put into watercooling solutions and higher power input. Server industry will start to use 48V-DC as the main source instead of 12V-DC to enable higher current pulling with better efficiencies. Desktop solutions are trying to remove cables as slotted power plugging is more safe and can distribute more power at better efficiencies. Asus's gamble on plugless GPUs will payoff in the future, but with more companies adopting a common solution.
 
Handhelds need a long way of improvements to be actually good. If we skip Nintendo Switch (which isn't perfect, but somehow is better as a whole product), then every single handheld console released in the last years runs hot, battery lasts for maybe 2 hours, and is still too slow for many games (or you like to play at 720p). Additionally, there is also what mackerel mentioned, some games are really annoying on small screen, not to mention office applications.

I see that computers are getting smaller, but displays are getting bigger. At work, we only buy 27" right now, and our clients pick 27" for office work, too. So you can get a well-performing NUC or other small PC, but you still wish to use it with a large display, not a 7" handheld that still would need a mouse and keyboard to be useful for most tasks.

ASUS "plugless GPU" still requires an additional slot on the motherboard to deliver power and the motherboard needs to transfer that and have additional plugs. So it's not that it doesn't have the plug, but it has it somewhere else. They should simply fix the problem with high-power plugs, so only one would be required and so it was 100% safe to use. Later it doesn't matter if you use it for a motherboard or directly to the graphics card.
 
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