So, who's getting a 5XXX series card?

[Janus67]

Wasn't that a moddiy cable that fried in the der8baur vid?

Yep, the user that had the first one fry upgraded from a 4090 FE to 5090 FE. I'd need to see if the support page was updated more recently than launch or if they have attempted to outreach or let their customers know ahead of time

 

[yoadknux]

Cable maker advises against using old 12VHPWR cables with RTX 50-series GPUs

Moddiy warns users not to use its 16-pin cables made in 2024 or earlier on RTX 50-series graphics cards.

www.tomshardware.com

Can I use the existing 12VHPWR cable with the new RTX50 GPU?

Upgrade to the Latest 12V-2X6 Cables for RTX50 Series GPUs

help.moddiy.com

Basically moddiy have said to use newer cables for 5000 series and that they made changes between 4 series and 5 series

Their wording is very vague. I don't like that, they're looking to milk money.
Say I bought a MODDIY cable for my 4090 last year. Is this cable unsafe? If so, shouldn't it be recalled? If it's safe, why release a "new" cable and tell people to buy it?
It's not that I disagree with their advice, I disagree with their marketing that "the new cable is better! buy it now!". A cable has one job, carry electrical power from the PSU to the GPU. Either it fails at this job, in which case it should be replaced, or it succeeds, in which case there are no improvements to be had...
If they presented the situation as it really is, "our cable is designed to be used with a 600W GPU for 1 year, and should be replaced afterwards"... that's something I will get behind.

 

[Janus67]

Their wording is very vague. I don't like that, they're looking to milk money.
Say I bought a MODDIY cable for my 4090 last year. Is this cable unsafe? If so, shouldn't it be recalled? If it's safe, why release a "new" cable and tell people to buy it?
It's not that I disagree with their advice, I disagree with their marketing that "the new cable is better! buy it now!". A cable has one job, carry electrical power from the PSU to the GPU. Either it fails at this job, in which case it should be replaced, or it succeeds, in which case there are no improvements to be had...
If they presented the situation as it really is, "our cable is designed to be used with a 600W GPU for 1 year, and should be replaced afterwards"... that's something I will get behind.

I can understand if they designed their original cable with heat absorption/etc in-place to handle the power draw of the 4090. But the 5090 increases the power draw, amperage, and may run hotter as a cable so they made modifications when new specifications were made? Or at least maybe the 12vHPWR or whatever to move to the 12v6vpwr or whatever the acronym is that became the "new" standard.

I agree that it seems a little scummy, but it's a CYA as well to avoid people coming back to you and you can say 'we made ones made for the new devices that were tested for it'

 

[Janus67]

Yep, the user that had the first one fry upgraded from a 4090 FE to 5090 FE. I'd need to see if the support page was updated more recently than launch or if they have attempted to outreach or let their customers know ahead of time

Can I use the existing 12VHPWR cable with the new RTX50 GPU?

Upgrade to the Latest 12V-2X6 Cables for RTX50 Series GPUs

web.archive.org

The page has only existed since the 10th/11th of February, for whatever that's worth.

 

[yoadknux]

I can understand if they designed their original cable with heat absorption/etc in-place to handle the power draw of the 4090. But the 5090 increases the power draw, amperage, and may run hotter as a cable so they made modifications when new specifications were made? Or at least maybe the 12vHPWR or whatever to move to the 12v6vpwr or whatever the acronym is that became the "new" standard.

I agree that it seems a little scummy, but it's a CYA as well to avoid people coming back to you and you can say 'we made ones made for the new devices that were tested for it'

12vhpwr cables were designed for 600W. I'm sure their old cables said "600W" too. As I said, if their previous cables weren't good enough, they should have recalled them, not tell users "if you don't buy our new product, don't complain later"

 

[Dolk]

Maybe zombie boarding Nvidia boards is needed again

I still have an original TiN power board sitting around doing nothing.

 

[mackerel]

Dates are official. Above is what I see on Nvidia's 5070 page. Your local one will show your local currency.

 

[EarthDog]

12vhpwr cables were designed for 600W. I'm sure their old cables said "600W" too. As I said, if their previous cables weren't good enough, they should have recalled them, not tell users "if you don't buy our new product, don't complain later"

buuuuuuuuuut...the original cable wasn't made for the 5090 and doesn't follow the new standard. New standard + new higher-wattage card = new cables.

As of 2025, the industry standard has transitioned to 12V-2X6, replacing the previous 12VHPWR standard. Our new cables incorporate significant advancements, including enhanced terminal and connector housing materials, along with thicker wires, to provide an additional safety buffer for the latest GPUs.

Don't use the new cables = toasty pics of wires b/c of NV's poor design choices.

 

[yoadknux]

buuuuuuuuuut...the original cable wasn't made for the 5090 and doesn't follow the new standard. New standard + new higher-wattage card = new cables.


Don't use the new cables = toasty pics of wires b/c of NV's poor design choices.

Well, did they forget about the 4090 then? It's been melting since launch day, obviously the previous cable wasn't good enough. So if last year MODDIY provided a user with a cable that was not good enough to power a 4090 without risk, shouldn't the user be eligible for a new replacement cable from MODDIY?

 

[Kenrou]

He just stuck a 5090 on a custom Silverstone FLP-01 case, the (default Nvidia) cable is squished between the GPU and the top of the case, I would really love to hear if something happens to it short/long term... Anyone here knows Linus?

 

[Janus67]

I know the LTT channel. I look forward to the follow-up surprised Pikachu video where there's smoke coming out of it.

 

[mackerel]

He just stuck a 5090 on a custom Silverstone FLP-01 case, the (default Nvidia) cable is squished between the GPU and the top of the case, I would really love to hear if something happens to it short/long term... Anyone here knows Linus?

I don't know their current practices. It used to be that unless there is a long term need for a build, they dismantle it again and put the parts back in their warehouse ready for other uses.

 

[EarthDog]

Well, did they forget about the 4090 then? It's been melting since launch day, obviously the previous cable wasn't good enough. So if last year MODDIY provided a user with a cable that was not good enough to power a 4090 without risk, shouldn't the user be eligible for a new replacement cable from MODDIY?

Shitty cables melted.

Their cables are, supposedly, good enough for the 4090. Their cable only fried moving to the 5090 and quite a bit more wattage, right? Would it be nice to offer a replacment? Sure (but why if it works for the card it's designed for?). Do I think it's a requirement of the business? No. Would it be awesome for them to send an email to customers letting them know NOT to use it with a 5090... yes.

cablemod/3rd party cables were melting since they got in people's hands... factory 3x8-pin to 12vhwpr were not.

 

[Janus67]

 

[Dolk]

The best part is that it was a 15MB image

 

[Kenrou]

Watch from 5m42s, anyone thinks he's got something?

 

[Voodoo Rufus]

16-pin 12VHPWR connector - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Some decent info here on official changes.

 

[yoadknux]

Shitty cables melted.

Their cables are, supposedly, good enough for the 4090. Their cable only fried moving to the 5090 and quite a bit more wattage, right? Would it be nice to offer a replacment? Sure (but why if it works for the card it's designed for?). Do I think it's a requirement of the business? No. Would it be awesome for them to send an email to customers letting them know NOT to use it with a 5090... yes.

cablemod/3rd party cables were melting since they got in people's hands... factory 3x8-pin to 12vhwpr were not.

nope. All cables melted. Corsair stock cables, CableMod, Lian Li whatever. And we literally saw an old MODDIY cable melt... Doesn't matter that it was in a 5090, it is the degradation by the 4090 (over 2 years of usage) that caused it to melt.
There is nothing special about the 575W of the 5090, nor the 12V-2x6, both features were already there for new models of the 4090. Any cable that would melt a 5090 would very likely melt a 4090 and vice versa, just maybe at a different rate. That's why I'm upset with MODDIY stating "our previous cables are bad, buy our new cables for the 50 series". They should either admit their previous solution is unsafe to use, or admit their "recent improvement" is a gimmick to sell new cables.
Ultimately, I don't think it matters. As I already said in the past, I think the problem is solved with 12V-2x6, and taking a new card with a new cable (not a revised cable, just unused) will be good enough and not melt.

Post magically merged: Feb 13, 2025

Watch from 5m42s, anyone thinks he's got something?

I don't watch his videos for tech analysis...

 

[EarthDog]

All cables melted. Indeed. Mostly garbo ones, we'd agree... cheaper, larger tolerances, less q/a. I'd also be willing to bet some q/a problems on brand name (while i agree with not getting tech from j2c, coincindently, the corsair cable was all but defective in that vid, lol)

Say I bought a MODDIY cable for my 4090 last year. Is this cable unsafe? If so, shouldn't it be recalled? If it's safe, why release a "new" cable and tell people to buy it?

The cable bought for a 4090 two years ago is unsafe to use on the new higher power card, yes (it seems, lol), as it doesn't meet the updated requirements (its not h+, even). You'll have to buy another with updated standards that works with the new, higher-wattage, seemingly poorly designed gpu.

....this...... doesn't bother me. I dont think there's anything dubious going on from the cable side. It's them scrambling to get the new standard cables out to market. Of course this benefits them. It's not a chicken or the egg thing for me.

 

[freeagent]

I dunno.. the cable that came with my Vertex looks way better than some of these other cables in pics and vids.

I hate to sound like a fanboy with that sort of thing. If it helps I have a Prime GX-750 that shets its pants when it runs my 3070Ti and 5900X, So I have to run it with a 5600X or 5800X3D lol..

But yeah, my cable looks mint. And I broke the clip by accident.. keep forgetting to send that pic in the email to them.

Edit:

And yes yes.. I know it isn't 600w.

But this can do 300w core, 400w board power