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Yeah those extra power to motherboard is for helping power M.2s and keep the GPU powered correctly.

If you mod things correctly, it would help doing 120W on the slot, but thats usually only done for world record chasers, if thats still a thing.
 
5080 Pink Edition has arrived (y)


Most of those unique series are not available outside of Asia because products on the EU/NA market are mainly designed for mass sales. Everything more exotic makes some noise, but most brands consider it a waste of money out of some specific countries. Brands like Colorful have really good graphics cards and all those white, cat, pink, dragon, whatever versions. They are not available out of Asia. Even some special OC series from Gigabyte or MSI are unavailable in EU/NA. Look at products like B650E Tachyon. It seems nothing really special, but it was still decided not to be released in most markets.
Btw. Colorful confirmed shipping of the RTX5070 soon, but if I'm right, it will be a regular looking version. They only said NB EX, which is not even listed anywhere.
 
Lots of disappointed users over on TPU about the lack of physx. I kindly offered up my 4070Ti as trade for a 5070Ti :)
 
Until this blew up, I didn't even know how many games actually used PhysX. It was memed upon so much as a feature no one used. Now it feels like some special case of loss aversion.

As for the "interesting" designs on GPUs, it would be a sign of a saturated market where it becomes more of a differentiating factor. Right now people are more interested in can you buy, at a good price. My current case doesn't have a window so it'll be pointless anyway. I did like Colorful's Meow series, and Asus' Evangelion collab. In the latter case, Asus only did it on their higher end stuff which is already expensive at the best of times, and this attracted a premium over that. Pass. The prebuilts were almost ok but they had outgoing generation components due to the timing of the release.
 
Until this blew up, I didn't even know how many games actually used PhysX. It was memed upon so much as a feature no one used. Now it feels like some special case of loss aversion.

As for the "interesting" designs on GPUs, it would be a sign of a saturated market where it becomes more of a differentiating factor. Right now people are more interested in can you buy, at a good price. My current case doesn't have a window so it'll be pointless anyway. I did like Colorful's Meow series, and Asus' Evangelion collab. In the latter case, Asus only did it on their higher end stuff which is already expensive at the best of times, and this attracted a premium over that. Pass. The prebuilts were almost ok but they had outgoing generation components due to the timing of the release.

PhysX was pretty much dead years ago. Nvidia bought it and not long after that, all started using other ways to show physics in games (most somehow fake, but visually still not so bad).

Colorful didn't want to send the Meow series products for reviews. We asked multiple times about some interesting products (not always high series). The RTX4080, which I'm still using for reviews, is the last sample they sent, and it was about two years ago. The PR agency that works for them asked me some weeks ago if I'm satisfied with cooperation, so I told them straight what I think. It was a big surprise that they offered a graphics card after about two months of silence.
 
Yeah those extra power to motherboard is for helping power M.2s and keep the GPU powered correctly.
Typically it's for high output charging or in MSI's case helping the fan headers output their spec rating continuously (along with PD charging), lol. M.2s sip on power... a few to several W and that's only peak/transfers.

The 24-pin outputs 144W of 12V, iirc. Back in the sli/xfire days it was used to help power dual gpus.
 
are we expecting supply to get corrected short term as in 4 - 8 weeks , or are we expecting supply to be corrected in long term 4 - 8 months?

When do we expect AMD 9070's to be listed online and there are not gonna be any preorders?

Tks guys
 
I don't know if there is any NDA (at least no one mentioned it), so for now only the box ... like a pro youtuber, I will perform unpacking in the next 10 posts ...

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Lucky for you, I'm not a youtuber, and won't ever make any unpacking videos ...
Some tests will be posted when I actually start testing it. I still have to finish some other products.
 
are we expecting supply to get corrected short term as in 4 - 8 weeks , or are we expecting supply to be corrected in long term 4 - 8 months?
The guidance on initial launch was "a few months" to get better supply. We're about a month into that. I have a suspicion the 5090 wont ever really catch up like the 4090 never really did, so they'll remain elevated over their nominal pricing. 5080 and below I think we'll see softening at some point.

When do we expect AMD 9070's to be listed online and there are not gonna be any preorders?
The sale date is a few days away on March 6. Look closer to then. I heard China has preorders, but rest of world will be a standard launch when it goes live.

I don't know if there is any NDA (at least no one mentioned it)
If you didn't sign any NDA you're not legally bound by one. If you didn't agree to any embargo, you're not bound by one, although that is more of a grey area.
 
If you didn't sign any NDA you're not legally bound by one. If you didn't agree to any embargo, you're not bound by one, although that is more of a grey area.

I know the rules, but I barely ever get anything to sign. Sometimes, vendors ask not to publish articles before a certain date or not to share information before the official premiere. I still don't want to cause problems as I cooperate with some of them for 10+ years. Some made me sign NDA and later sent samples after the premiere :bang head
 
5070 NDA is the 6th for non-reference cards (5th for reference). I don't know when the unboxing is... I'd have to look up my emails. But since this is Funky's, OCF isn't responsible for any potential breach, LOL.

are we expecting supply to get corrected short term as in 4 - 8 weeks , or are we expecting supply to be corrected in long term 4 - 8 months?

When do we expect AMD 9070's to be listed online and there are not gonna be any preorders?

Tks guys
Personally, I've been saying by the end of Q2 for most things to be more available and at a reasonable price point. We've seen articles come out, as mack said, within a couple of months......
The sale date is a few days away on March 6. Look closer to then. I heard China has preorders, but rest of world will be a standard launch when it goes live.
This.
 
I don't know if there is any NDA (at least no one mentioned it), so for now only the box ... like a pro youtuber, I will perform unpacking in the next 10 posts ...

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Lucky for you, I'm not a youtuber, and won't ever make any unpacking videos ...
Some tests will be posted when I actually start testing it. I still have to finish some other products.

GOD HELP YOU if you've got one of those big Joe Rogan microphones, everything is lit in violet, and you run around the room screaming at the start of your video. (OR you start the video with "WHAT IS UP, YOUTUBERS!? It's ME... the Big, Bad, WoomyDoobie!"

(Sigh... 12GB... those last 4GB must just be KILLIN' 'em...)
 
"NVIDIA is Selling Lies | RTX 5070 Founders Edition Review & Benchmarks"

"This review of the NVIDIA RTX 5070 Founders Edition video card benchmarks performance vs. the RTX 5070 Ti, RTX 4070, RX 7900 XT, 7900 GRE, and prepares for comparisons against AMD's RX 9070 XT and RX 9070 GPUs. The AMD RDNA 4 RX 9070 series cards launch tomorrow at $600 and $550 MSRP, matching the RTX 5070's $550 MSRP. We'll see if either one holds when it launches, but for now, we're focusing on some of the marketing lies that NVIDIA told during its presentation of the RTX 5070 GPUs. Testing MFG 4X vs. an RTX 4090 without MFG, we show that NVIDIA's claims of equivalence between the two are simply not true. It is intentionally manipulative and a misrepresentation of reality, unfortunately torpedoing what otherwise could have been a simpler launch review focused purely on performance. Instead, we get to talk about marketing BS."

TLDR: this thing is about as fast as a 4070 super

 
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I tried to skim through it, but couldn't quickly find it. What does the 5070 do with MFG? It wasn't obvious where it was tested in the timestamps. Does 5070 4x MFG beat 4090? With FG? What settings do what?
 
I tried to skim through it, but couldn't quickly find it. What does the 5070 do with MFG? It wasn't obvious where it was tested in the timestamps. Does 5070 4x MFG beat 4090? With FG? What settings do what?
Going quickly through all the reviews, don't think FG was tested yet, apparently they got the conclusion "4070 super clone, but worse" and left it at that?

EDIT: Found it, needs DLSS Performance 4x MFG ⇾ skip to 13m53s
 
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Going quickly through all the reviews, don't think FG was tested yet, apparently they got the conclusion "4070 super clone, but worse" and left it at that?
So it was just an excuse to rant about marketing without giving anything more to back up those claims? My interpretation was that 5070 with 4x MFG could beat a 4090 with FG. Implicitly, a 5070 base performance would have to be around or above half of a 4090. Based on other reviews, this requirement seems to be met, but FG scaling is not exact so I'd like the data for that.

I'm not making excuses for Nvidia marketing, but all marketing has included some really silly things in the past. Apple of the past being the most obvious offender, even they seem to have mellowed out a little.

I got into an argument elsewhere, should it be compared to 4070 or 4070 Super? IMO it is a 4070 successor so there is a clear improvement there, but if we compare the later lower MSRP as opposed to launch, that perf increase comes at increased cost. Comparing to 4070 Super, it still comes out ahead. Depending on which review, the gap can be slim, but here we do have a clear MSRP cut. The 9070 non-XT will be the most interesting comparison to see, tomorrow! I estimate that it will beat the 5070 in both raster and RT for nominally the same cost. Question as always remains, what are Nvidia specific features worth?
 
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