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So, who's getting a 5XXX series card?

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HotStocks app is what I'm using now. First day first time I got that MSI bundle.

Tried for an Astral this morning but Asus's website didn't behave on my phone.

Seems like the app is working for me very well.

Still no shipping details from MSI yet, so I'm still worried they may cancel it.
 
Dolk said:
Still no shipping details from MSI yet, so I'm still worried they may cancel it.
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It's been ~24 hours since you posted you bought it. It may take a couple of days to show shipping. Have some faith! :)

Has the status changed from 'processing'??
 
Yeah it still says processing. When I do an order check through their help section, it says that PI has been created.

Limbo sucks lol
 
Bye bye PhysX! Made me want to play Metro 2033/Last Light again... Just not on a 5***+ :unsure:

"NVIDIA Giveth, NVIDIA Taketh Away | RIP PhysX 32-bit (GTX 580 vs. RTX 5080)"

00:00 - GTX 580 is Back and Better Than Ever
02:39 - NVIDIA Hasn't Fully Killed PhysX... Yet
03:58 - History of PhysX
06:31 - This Was Predicted
10:14 - Test Methods and Choices
13:27 - Benchmarks: Mafia II
17:27 - Benchmarks: Metro Last Light
20:58 - Accelerator GPU Utilization
21:36 - Benchmarks: Mirror's Edge
23:42 - Benchmarks: Borderlands 2
25:22 - Benchmarks: Batman Arkham City
28:14 - Conclusion


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The newest game they tested is 12 years old... the oldest 17. It's hard to shed a tear...

I'm sure there are some newer titles with 32-bit PhysX (???).... but they have to get a video out sooner than later, lol.
 
Oh, there are a LOT of new games with PhysX (it's never really stopped being incorporated from AAA to Indie), but it's usually been an on/off toggle in the settings for many years, don't think many people delve into them enough to even know what it is. BUT now they have a new reason to wonder why framerates/frametimes are dropping like crazy :poop:

"Total number of games: 933"

List of games that support Nvidia PhysX - PCGamingWiki PCGW - bugs, fixes, crashes, mods, guides and improvements for every PC game

www.pcgamingwiki.com www.pcgamingwiki.com
 
Kenrou said:
Oh, there are a LOT of new games with PhysX (it's never really stopped being incorporated from AAA to Indie), but it's usually been an on/off toggle in the settings for many years, don't think many people delve into them enough to even know what it is. BUT now they have a new reason to wonder why framerates/frametimes are dropping like crazy :poop:

"Total number of games: 933"
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Right. I know there are a lot of games with PhysX. I guess the question is, how many does this affect and further, what's the latest game using 32-bit PhysX?


I found a list.......

Monster Madness: Battle for Suburbia
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon
Advanced Warfighter 2
Crazy Machines 2
Unreal Tournament 3
Warmonger: Operation Downtown Destruction
Hot Dance Party
QQ Dance
Hot Dance Party II
Sacred 2: Fallen Angel
Cryostasis: Sleep of Reason
Mirror's Edge
Armageddon Riders
Darkest of Days
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Sacred 2: Ice & Blood
Shattered Horizon
Star Trek DAC
Metro 2033
Dark Void
Blur
Mafia II
Hydrophobia: Prophecy
Jianxia 3
Alice: Madness Returns
MStar
Batman: Arkham City
7554
Depth Hunter
Deep Black
Gas Guzzlers: Combat Carnage
The Secret World
Continent of the Ninth (C9)
Borderlands 2
Passion Leads Army
QQ Dance 2
Star Trek
Mars: War Logs
Metro: Last Light
Rise of the Triad
The Bureau: XCOM Declassified
Batman: Arkham Origins
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag.

.....but no idea what the latest game is on there.

EDIT: So, a bunch of games (over 40......of 900+). They all look like seriously old ones. Most well a decade+. That stinks, regardless. Get a PhysX card like back in the old days, lol.
 
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Nope. The GN video mentioned that game developers switched to 64-bit PhysX at least (if not more than) a decade ago.

I think this is just another thing for people to complain about because of the horrible 5000 launch.
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I meant newer than what he tested (not that it makes what you say untrue!!), lol. I know this bothers some, but, 32-bit, yo..... :p


...the TPU article gave me vibes that it was in the driver. I wonder if a 5000-series capable driver works on any of these games or it's just deprecated on Blackwell, period.
 
unsafesteagle said:
@Brando whats the good word here? a 5080 can be had any day of the week with alittle digging , @$1700ish?
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Even the overpriced 9070XT costs ~$1.1k with the same or slightly lower performance. I have no idea how driver improvements affect each brand. It's still weird to me how the community considers Nvidia bad and AMD good when both brands pretty much didn't improve performance over the last-gen cards (excluding the RT on AMD's side and RTX5090 on Nvidia's).
 
EarthDog said:
I meant newer than what he tested (not that it makes what you say untrue!!), lol. I know this bothers some, but, 32-bit, yo..... :p


...the TPU article gave me vibes that it was in the driver. I wonder if a 5000-series capable driver works on any of these games or it's just deprecated on Blackwell, period.
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My understanding is that it was deprecated period.

It's honestly a bit disappointing, I was looking to go back and play the Batman games (I played Asylum but never finished City, and actually just installed it a few weeks ago). Not sure if city uses 64 or 32bit. Granted many games have the aforementioned toggle to disable it so it becomes cpu-based or just less stuff happening on the screen. Still seems somewhat dumb to eliminate something that they paid for years ago in terms of game preservation and such.
 
PhysX costs additional money to include it in games and barely anyone uses it anymore as CPU physics or physics-like effects are good enough to cover that. PhysX was also as much used in most games as RT. I mean, most games use RT only for some effects, like water on the ground. It's just advertised as fully used when it's not. The same was with PhysX.
Nvidia bought PhysX and later let it die. As it was noticed, most games have 10 years+. Another thing is that consoles were improved over the years, and they don't support PhysX, while the market for console games is probably larger than for PCs (I don't have any fresh data for that).
I guess they will replace it with some AI solution, which will be easier to make globally.
 
Someone should do the generational comparison 5090 to 3090

Early in 4000 series a 3090 owner advised me the same not to buy in 4000s

And why would I retain an expensive item such as a 3090 because it was expensive? 🤷
 
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I'm hoping this 5090 lasts me a very long time. I think the only constraint is the power plug burn out. I feel like the rasterization era is coming to an end. Nvidia at GDC and other segments are announcing more AI in GPU pipelines. I'm not sure how that is better than raster, but Nvidia seems to be pushing companies to go this way.
 
Got my notice from Nvidia that the 5090 has shipped. Seasonic customer service was also nice enough to send me an oem 12V-2x6 cable for the cost of freight. I decided to stick with the seasonic cable because it's 12 pins on both sides and my power supply has a dedicated plug for it so I don't have to take up a bunch of four pin connections.
 
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