So, who's getting a 5XXX series card?

[EarthDog]

The power supply doesn't already come with one, but has the 12VHWPR connector on the PSU side??

 

[Brando]

The power supply doesn't already come with one, but has the 12VHWPR connector on the PSU side??

It came with a 12VHWPR cable with a dedicated plugin on psu side. As far as I know the 12V-2x6 cable is backwards compatible. The seasonic rep didn't seem to have anything bad to say about it.

 

[Dolk]

This is why I'm only getting a recent PSU thats built with 3.1/5.1 rather than being upgraded post spec update.

 

[Brando]

Skynet says it should work fine

 

[Dolk]

I agree that its most likely safe, but who knows what kind of corners were cut with the first generation of PSUs and HP-12V. Most likley the high-end PSUs will be ok, but the lower end products probably will have issues in the long run.

I'm just not going to mess around with this card and get the most compatible rig put together just to give me a higher chance.

In other news, CDW got back to me saying they purchased my card but had to increase the price due to demand. Its not awful but basically TUF for an MSRP Astral :/

Lets see which one gets here first lol.

 

[Janus67]

Managed to snag an MSI Ventus 5090 at microcenter today! The only problem is that it has some crazy high coil whine. So I'm running it on stress tests to hope that it figures itself out

 

[Dolk]

Congrats

Drench the coil in thermal past?

 

[Janus67]

So turns out it is almost certainly my 1000w EVGA supernova Gold power supply that is whining.

 

[Dolk]

FS: MSI 1600W PSU $600

 

[EarthDog]

So turns out it is almost certainly my 1000w EVGA supernova Gold power supply that is whining.

My EVGA 850W P6 isn't.

Though, it's a bit scary to see 920W at the wall when testing..............................

 

[JLK03F150]

So turns out it is almost certainly my 1000w EVGA supernova Gold power supply that is whining.

Amazon.com

 

[SF101]

I would check if everything works fine, so you won't stay with a $300 block if for some reason the card will be faulty (hopefully not) and you get a money back or switch to a different model. I guess you can wait 2-3 weeks more before ordering the block.
... and count ROPs

Man have water blocks sure gotten expensive its pretty discouraging tbh lol.

 

[Woomack]

Man have water blocks sure gotten expensive its pretty discouraging tbh lol.

If you go the Chinese way (Bykski or something) or Alphacool, you save a bit, but most blocks for top-series cards cost $250+. Some brands, like EK, won't even give backplates at this price.

 

[SF101]

If you go the Chinese way (Bykski or something) or Alphacool, you save a bit, but most blocks for top-series cards cost $250+. Some brands, like EK, won't even give backplates at this price.

Yea I think all the GPU blocks I've owned have somehow ended up EKWB.
I really wanted Alphacools during the R9-290X era , "they shaped the water channels to look like the islands the 290X was named after" but they were more $ than EK back then lol I needed 2 blocks for crossfire so i cheeped out and got Non plated Copper blocks they worked fine.
EKWB has been using less and less copper and more plastic well at least on the last 2 blocks which were pre installed - a Powercolor 5700XT Liquid Devil which was bios locked , and a XFX RX6900XTXH Zero which has been really good.
I've used a bunch of different CPU blocks though I tend to have better luck with full copper CPU blocks this plated Thermaltake Pacific W8 Block has been really good.
People are saying Bykski quality is decent though and Alphacool has always been good Would like to see Thermaltake and Corsair do some GPU blocks in Corsairs case more blocks i guess.
The Heatkiller blocks look legit though imho.

 

[Brando]

Just in case anyone is curious about atx 3.0 vs 3.1 (tdlr not much)

Differences Between ATX 3.0 and ATX 3.1 Standards - Seasonic Knowledge Base

As PC hardware performance continues to improve, the power consumption of graphics cards and CPUs is rising, especially when high-end graphics cards are under h

knowledge.seasonic.com

Differences Between ATX 3.0 and ATX 3.1 Standards​

As PC hardware performance continues to improve, the power consumption of graphics cards and CPUs is rising, especially when high-end graphics cards are under heavy load. Their peak power consumption often exceeds the nominal TDP value, which can trigger the power supply's overload protection mechanism, causing the system to shut down or restart.



To meet the power demands of the new generation of high-performance hardware and improve the power supply’s ability to handle instantaneous dynamic overloads, Intel introduced the ATX 3.0 power supply standard in March 2022, followed by an update to the ATX 3.1 standard in September 2023.

Comparison Between ATX Standards​

	ATX 2.4	ATX 2.53	ATX 3.0	ATX 3.1
16Pin Native Interface	No Requirement	No Requirement	12VHPWR (> 450W standard)	12V-2×61 (> 450W standard)
Instantaneous Peak Power	No Requirement	No Requirement	200% (100μς)	200% (100μς)
Voltage Power-Off Retention Time	17ms at full load	17ms at full load	17ms at full load	12ms at full load 17ms at 80% load recommended
12V Voltage Deviation	-5% ~ +5%	-5% ~ +5%	-7% ~ +5%	-7% ~ +5%
PCIe Voltage Deviation	No Requirement	No Requirement	-8% ~ +5%	-8% ~ +5%
Extremely Light Load Efficiency (10W or 2%)	No Requirement	Requirement ≥60% Recommend ≥70%	Requirement ≥60% Recommend ≥70%	Requirement ≥60% Recommend ≥70%
ALPM Replaces Low Power Mode	Not Supported	Support	Support	Support
T1/T3 Boot Sequence	T1 < 200ms 100ms < T3 < 250ms	T1 < 150ms 100ms < T3 < 250ms	T1 < 150ms 100ms < T3 < 250ms	T1 < 150ms 100ms < T3 < 250ms

1 The name "12VHPWR" has been changed to "12V-2x6", and the pin length of the socket on the board side, such as the graphics card side, has been adjusted to enhance safety. The wire material remains unchanged.

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Enhanced 12V-2x6 Connector​

The 12VHPWR connector was updated to the 12V-2x6 connector in ATX 3.1 by the PCI-SIG organization. This new design offers:

• Longer conductor terminals for better conductivity.
• Shorter sense pins, allowing the GPU to power down immediately if the connection is compromised.

This update addresses issues seen with the 12VHPWR connector, which previously caused some issues with melted connectors, particularly on the GPU side.


Note that the 12V-2x6 and 12VHPWR connectors differ only in their socket design, while the modular cables remain identical and fully compatible.

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Improved Hold-Up Time​

Hold-up time refers to the duration a PSU can maintain stable power output after an interruption or drop in input voltage, measured in milliseconds.


The ATX 3.1 standard has relaxed the requirements for voltage hold-up time, reducing it from 17ms at full load to 12ms at full load, with a recommendation of 17ms at 80% load. However, this does not signify a downgrade of the standard. The actual hold-up time depends on the specifications and test data of individual products, not just the standard

 

[Woomack]

I've used a bunch of different CPU blocks though I tend to have better luck with full copper CPU blocks this plated Thermaltake Pacific W8 Block has been really good.
People are saying Bykski quality is decent though and Alphacool has always been good Would like to see Thermaltake and Corsair do some GPU blocks in Corsairs case more blocks i guess.
The Heatkiller blocks look legit though imho.

Bykski blocks are not worse than those from the most popular brands. The only problem is that they never give a proper set of thermal pads. I had maybe 5 of their blocks and it was always the same issue. EK generally sells their blocks without a backplate for as much as others have blocks+backplates. I'm not saying their blocks are bad, just overpriced ... and EK will probably die soon anyway.
Thermaltake is getting better over time, but most of their products still look and feel like toys. The same is for Corsair liquid cooling components. Some have weird features that I wouldn't trust. Watercool/Heatkiller didn't change for years, and they have blocks only for reference cards +1-2 other models. They have good quality blocks, but people won't buy them when they don't update their product line.
Regarding Chinese brands, I recently found out that their radiators are far from the declared specs and use more lead than the safe limits for EU/US standards.
I think that Alphacool has the best quality offer regarding liquid cooling components. Also, their radiators are one of the few on the market which are fully copper.

 

[Brando]

5090 coming Monday and seasonic cable coming today

 

[Voodoo Rufus]

I got in on the Newegg shuffle and a slot for an MSI 5070 two fan card that would go in my HTPC nicely, but I was stuck in jury duty and couldn't think about pouncing long enough to pull the trigger. Maybe next round.

 

[Kenrou]

"I expected more from this - RTX 5090 Astral BIOS Update"

1:26 The Issue with Noise
2:13 Determining the Baseline Values with the Old BIOS
3:39 The Topic of Load Distribution
4:16 Noise Levels with the Old BIOS
5:15 VRAM Temperature
5:46 BIOS Update & New Values
6:27 Noise Level Comparison
7:08 Fan Speeds
7:18 Summary/Conclusion
8:29 ASUS Update

 

[dfonda]

I got in on the Newegg shuffle and a slot for an MSI 5070 two fan card that would go in my HTPC nicely, but I was stuck in jury duty and couldn't think about pouncing long enough to pull the trigger. Maybe next round.

I only got two notifies for the shuffle how often are they doing it ? The last one I saw was 2 weeks ago.
EDIT: I just made sure I was subscribed (It took me a while).