So, who's getting a 5XXX series card?

[mackerel]

Monster Hunter Wilds and Robocop (of all things...) we're the first games I'd run into in a LOOOONG time time (possibly ever) that were unplayable for me.

And I don't even CARE about framerates or anything. They would literally freeze up or crash.

MHW benchmark ran fine on my 3070 laptop, which is about the most interest I have in it.

We're FAST approaching that limit where 8GB just won't be enough.

Not even close. I even made a chart previously to show why. Did I not post it here? Games will continue to run on 8GB GPUs for a LONG time yet outside of possibly the odd tech showcase. Now, this doesn't mean you can play games at any settings at 8GB, but they will be playable. Reality is vast majority of older games will be fine. Some newer games may require appropriate settings.

 

[Kenrou]

"More Owners of Premium GIGABYTE GeForce RTX Cards Report Thermal Gel Slippage"

"Last week, GIGABYTE issued an official response to an initial case of "thermal conductive gel slippage," involving an ultra-expensive AORUS GeForce RTX 5080 MASTER ICE, a vertical-mounted graphics card setup, and very non-intensive MMO gaming sessions. The Taiwanese manufacturer believes that this problem is isolated within a first wave of products: "every graphics card is inspected and verified against our quality standards before leaving the factory. The thermal conductive gel is an insulating, deformable, putty-like compound. It is engineered to remain in place when applied properly, and can endure at least 150 °C before any melting or liquification could happen. In some early production batches for the GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 50 Series, a slightly higher volume of gel was applied to ensure sufficient thermal coverage. The overapplication may cause the excessive gel to appear more prominent, extended, and could potentially be separated from the designated area. While the appearance of extra gel might be concerning, this cosmetic variance does not affect the card's performance, reliability, or lifespan. We had already inspected the issue, and adjusted the gel to the optimal amount in (subsequent) production runs."

Despite sending out a public assurance to a worried audience—"(we) take your concerns seriously and want to provide clear information"—GIGABYTE will not be recalling problematic products. VideoCardz reckons that the company is "downplaying" current conditions. Based on further evidence—shared by several members of the TechPowerUp forum (commenting on news coverage)—unfortunately, the first reported case (emerging from South Korea) was not an isolated incident. Given the contents of GIGABYTE's public bulletin, they seem to be aware that this special thermal material (reserved for fancier SKUs) is troubling owners of early batch "GeForce RTX 50 Series and Radeon RX 9000 Series graphics cards." TPU forumite, remekra, shared two images and the following bit of feedback (plus a warning): "I have mine mounted in Lian Li SUP01 case, so GPU is basically standing that's why it drips into the direction of ports. So far it does not overheat on memory modules. I will hold off sending it to GIGABYTE customer service, as I don't have good memories of them; so until it overheats or stops working I will use it. But if you have a vertical case or stand then be aware.""

More Owners of Premium GIGABYTE GeForce RTX Cards Report Thermal Gel Slippage

Last week, GIGABYTE issued an official response to an initial case of "thermal conductive gel slippage," involving an ultra-expensive AORUS GeForce RTX 5080 MASTER ICE, a vertical-mounted graphics card setup, and very non-intensive MMO gaming sessions. The Taiwanese manufacturer believes that...

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[Woomack]

I'm not defending Gigabyte, as I don't know the scale of this issue, but those photos look far from what I see on my cards. The RX9070XT, 5070Ti, and 5060Ti have much drier putty, and simply have too much of that stuff on all components. There is as much of that "gel" on the photos of the cards affected by the issue as if someone put thermal pads. Maybe they were unlucky with some worse batches, who knows ...

Here is a photo from my 5070Ti review (the same PCB is used in the GB RTX5080 series). Almost as much of this stuff was left on the PCB side, so you see how much they used. It's also impossible for it to slide out from between single memory chips (at least as dry as it is on my cards), as they put a wide/long blob on all memory chips together, the same on VRM. It just couldn't be nicely squared and thin like thermal pads when this stuff is all around all components, not only on the top of the chips. It also sticks to everything and isn't easy to clean, even with alcohol.

 

[EarthDog]

That's what my 5090 master looked like too....

.... and part of the reason I don't want it vertical in the SUP01

 

[Woomack]

A different topic, but somehow related to something mentioned recently - the fastest low-profile card. I wonder how this thing works - https://www.aorus.com/graphics-cards/GV-N5060OC-8GL/Key-Features
I only see the 8GB version of the RTX5060 low-profile cards. I also can't see them in stores, but they probably directly replace the RTX4060, which wasn't cheap.

 

[mackerel]

Two models of 5070 Ti in stock at near enough MSRP from one supplier in UK, as well as one model of 5080 at the new reduced MSRP. See how long they stick around. Wondering if this is a sign of their supply stabilising along with the pricing. Even 5090 is in stock at 14% above reduced MSRP.

 

[Dolk]

Woohoo my alphacool WB is finally in the states.

 

[freakdiablo]

Two models of 5070 Ti in stock at near enough MSRP from one supplier in UK, as well as one model of 5080 at the new reduced MSRP. See how long they stick around. Wondering if this is a sign of their supply stabilising along with the pricing. Even 5090 is in stock at 14% above reduced MSRP.

Just came in to ask something along these lines.

Not just for me, but for work. We have servers running with 2080 Tis for image analytics, and as seen with mining cards after 5+ years under constant full load they're slowly starting to burn out in the field.

Not like we need 5090s, could probably squeeze the same performance out of 5070s (I think our SI even tested 4060 Tis and they work at the current load level). But finding a distributor that has 5+ stocked at close to MSRP? I've been afraid to check.

 

[Kenrou]

"Aliexpress RTX 5090 Scam"

 

[Kenrou]

"Prototype NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 with Four 16-Pin Connectors Pictured"

"What if NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 5090 GPU had access to not one but four 16-pin power connectors? Not only would it draw much less power per connector, thus avoiding overheating of the connector in some cases, but the power coming into the GB202 could theoretically scale to 2,400 Watts. This is precisely what NVIDIA tested with its latest leaked GeForce RTX 5090 GPU engineering sample. Pictured below is a PCB that was destroyed after testing. Around the edges of the card, you can spot several USB headers, pin test points, and diagnostic connectors. These features are standard on development samples but are removed from retail models. On the I/O bracket, there are five display outputs, which are more than what you usually find on a gaming card. This suggests NVIDIA was testing output strength and signal quality under different loads. Since we can't see the back side of the board, it's unclear if the chip itself is from the GeForce RTX 5090 series or the RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell variant. However, it is most likely a super early sample of RTX 5090 before volume production began."

Prototype NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 with Four 16-Pin Connectors Pictured

What if NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 5090 GPU had access to not one but four 16-pin power connectors? Not only would it draw much less power per connector, thus avoiding overheating of the connector in some cases, but the power coming into the GB202 could theoretically scale to 2,400 Watts. This is...

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[SF101]

But why the hell did they not make these half height cards.
Would be perfect for a HTPC upgrade if they were, I need a low height card for 2 HTPC's currently and the selection sucks the big one.

Somehow, many more half-height PC cases were released in recent years, and I wonder why, when people can't find proper components for them. The same with some cases that support Flex-ATX PSUs or weird non-standard PSUs. Those are mainly from lesser-known Chinese brands, but in Asia, they sell quite well.

There were single half-height graphics cards with a power connector, but I don't remember what they were. They were still lower GPUs at ~100W. When I was testing some of the new graphics cards, I noticed they barely use the PCIe slot to deliver power. Almost everything they take from the power connector on top of the card. Half-height could still have it on the side, but there will still be a problem with cooling.

For some reason, new 300mm, 2-slot, and not too tall cards are now called SFF versions. I saw many negative comments on the web about it, as it's hard to call it SFF, but all leading brands and Nvidia are pushing this idea. In the end, you make an ITX PC that is 30% smaller than a typical large mid-tower. This is why Corsair 2000D or the latest Fractal ITX cases don't sell. They are ITX, but take almost as much space as a typical large tower.

I nearly bought a Jonsbo N4 for NAS but combined with a new small PSU for it. With the cost, I aborted and just went for another Node 804. If I followed through with the N4, if I wanted a GPU I'd need a low profile one so that was another strike against it. I guess it can make more sense if you're a system builder and want to sell smaller boxes. In many places in the East, land prices are high so space is a premium. Large towers aren't so desired there.


While PCIe slot is nominally 75W there is some complication in that you only get 66W from 12V, and the remainder from other power rails. So extracting and balancing that might mean they'd just rather add a power connector.

Of the PSUs not needing a power connector:
750 Ti: 60W
1030: 30W
1030 DDR4: 20W
1050 (Ti): 75W
1650: 75W
3060 6GB: 70W

There were some pro ones above those, but I'm not listing them as they're unaffordable for mortals. I still think we're due a new consumer tier model in that area. We didn't get an Ada consumer one, so maybe Blackwell? The increase in power efficiency should allow a perf increase over Ampere at the same power limit.


Wasn't that the Nvidia definition? I guess the thing about SFF is how small is small? I liked the SG13 case and had two in the past. That would take a 2 slot GPU (preferably blower) as well as ATX PSU. If you want to go smaller, that does limit things further, so maybe there needs to be SFF GPU classes, not just the one.

Yea To be fair it doesnt need to be a full half height card in most cases it just needs to be level with the rear slot IO, Most smaller form factor cases for example will fit a 290X tight to the cover but if the card is taller than the rear IO your screwed.

I have ran into over a dozen situations where this would be nice to have but most of the SFF cases now just use risers and move the GPU orientation to acomodate BIG gpu's.

My point was if the 5060/TI really wanted a market that justified its existance when facing against much cheaper alternatives and its own 5070 line a SFF or half hight /low profile at the very least would really give it a niche leg to stand on since its lower power etc.

And people looking for a HTPC might find it apealing.

Kind of like how the A310-380s were basically trash but work amazingly in a low price low power AV1 Encoding/Transcoding scenerios.

I guess if you scream into the void long enough something happens?

GeForce RTX™ 5060 OC Low Profile 8G​

Be better if it was the 16GB TI version though less compromising.

Post magically merged: May 27, 2025

A different topic, but somehow related to something mentioned recently - the fastest low-profile card. I wonder how this thing works - https://www.aorus.com/graphics-cards/GV-N5060OC-8GL/Key-Features
I only see the 8GB version of the RTX5060 low-profile cards. I also can't see them in stores, but they probably directly replace the RTX4060, which wasn't cheap.

Lol was just commenting on this.

 

[Woomack]

I don't think there will be a 16GB version as it requires double the space for memory chips. On the other hand, they somehow put that on their 5060Ti and it has a very short PCB - up to PCIe x8 length.
I heard some comments that the low-profile RTX 5060 is loud under load. Those 3 small fans suggest that. I could still review it if GB decided to send it. I see it listed in some EU stores for a higher price than it seems reasonable, but perhaps because it doesn't have any competition in this size.

 

[Railgun]

After all the hullabaloo, I'm now just waiting for the Ti.

 

[Woomack]

Ti what? There is everything Ti already, and I doubt RTX 5090 will ever be Ti. Do you mean Super? RTX 5080 Super leaks were already on the web several days ago. I mean the 24GB version and higher clocks. I also doubt we will see the RTX 5090 Super. There were some weird engineering versions, but nothing seems to hit the mass market anytime soon (if ever).

 

[Railgun]

...or whatever a fuller fat 5090 could be. I'm bored now with the whole ecosystem.

 

[Woomack]

I saw someone mention going back to Titan as the top model, but I also doubt that. There is too big performance difference between the 5080 and the 5090, and there is no competition on the market, so Nvidia uses everything stronger for AI/server stuff.
I wish the top model, but I don't feel I need it for gaming, and for sure, I can't afford it. I was counting on review samples, but in time from the vendors' promises about the 5090, it went down to the 5070 Ti. Now I only count that maybe someone sends a 5080 Super, but we will see.

 

[Janus67]

...or whatever a fuller fat 5090 could be. I'm bored now with the whole ecosystem.

That would be the rtx 6000 pro card, costs 3x a 5090 for 10% more performance!

 

[Railgun]

Because I’m a wishy washy type as of late, Palit variant arrives tomorrow. I guess I’ll opt for the Watercool block and maybe finally get this new thing done.

 

[SF101]

grumble mumble bring back SLI/Crossfire and make it great again... grumble.

 

[EarthDog]

grumble mumble bring back SLI/Crossfire and make it great again... grumble.

Please no..... lol.

So inefficient, that.