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Summer Cometh:- Look to your cooling and win....

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RoadWarrior

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Hail Team-mates,

Summer is coming, that's no news, seems to happen every year. Every year though, it seems like it takes us by surprise, rigs lock up, overclocks go down, production is lost. So this time, we're gonna remember the 6 "P"s

Proper
Planning
Prevents
P***
Poor
Performance!

This thread will be our secret weapon. Link in every cheap and effective cooling idea you come across on these forums and elsewhere.

This summer, we stand our ground. This summer, we beat the heat. This summer we will be prepared. This summer OCAU will not get away from us. This summer we will gain on [H]. This summer we dig in early and prepare positions. This summer is OUR summer.


Part I Making the most of what you've got

i) Work up a schedule for checking and oiling your fans. Maybe you have a favourite oil, maybe you don't. Don't use WD40 for anything but freeing them up if they're really gummy, it's mostly a solvent, apply real oil afterwards. Use any light-medium weight oil you find convenient. 3in1, sewing machine oil, light machine oil, 5w30 or 10w30 motor oil, roller blade oil, RC car bearing oil, all perform well. A handy oiler can be obtained from an old tape head or floppy disk cleaning kit, nab the little bottle the cleaning fluid came in, pop the top off, fill it with the drainings of a quart bottle of motor oil after you top up your vehicle, enlarge the hole slightly with a safety pin, then you're good to go for dispensing pinpoint drops of oil for dozens of fans.

ii) Keep your sinks dust free. A coating of dust insulates your sinks and makes them inefficient. Check them at the same time as you check your fans. Cleaning methods include; The favourite, blast with canned air. A refinement, blast with canned air towards a running vacuum cleaner so it doesn't end up back in your rig in a day or two. Or use the blower hose on the vacuum with a thin nozzle, if it has one. Or use a compressed air tank. Or remove the sinks and run them under the shower or faucet. Or use a paintbrush to dust with towards a vacuum. Use any method you can think of, but keep them clean. If you have them off to clean, remember, apply fresh TIM, the best you've got.

iii) Airflow Airflow Airflow. Take a moment or two in any of your boxen that are cased, to tidy up wires, interface cables etc, so that air can flow freely through the rig.

Remember Taking rigs down gracefully for a short while to do these, is less harmful to production than having them lock up for several days in a row before you figure out what the problem is!

iv) Lower your clocks in advance of hot weather! If you KNOW or suspect your rigs are going to lock up when the ambient temperature rises past a certain point. like if you're running 50C now in 20C ambients, then in advance of the hot weather, lower your clocks until you have enough heat headroom. A CPU at 2.6Ghz that locks up 3 times a week from heat, is losing about half of it's work due to spoiled and discarded units. Therefore it's only doing as much good as a 1.3Ghz CPU. Put your OC ego on the shelf for the heatwaves, lower the clock to a point where you know you've got the headroom. 2.2Ghz produces wayyyyy more than a 2.6 that locks up. Take advantage of any utils that let you lower your FSB or multi on the fly, make batch files to make it easy, if you're Christoph, write a perl script that gets temps from accuweather and have it adjust your clocks accordingly :D ... more on that sort of thing in Part II

iv) Insurance. Do everything you can to make sure your rig can survive a screwup. Try settings checkpoints in the client settings to every 5 mins so you lose less work if it manages to recover after a lock. Consider using system agent or something similar to backup your F@H directory every hour or so. So that's the maximum you ever lose.


Part II Improving, tuning, tweaking, adding cooling....

Add cheap mods to this list.

i) Software possibilities. Added here because it's more technical, needs a lot of messing with, and may need registered versions of some proggies to work best. MBM5 can launch programs triggered on temperature. This could be a batch file to step up or step down your FSB or Multiplier with a util such as CPUMSR or GCPUID. CPUCool also has various functions that may prove useful in this regard. Step it down before heat takes it down. I believe also that The Coolest is working on a version of GCPUID or maybe a whole new app, that allows temperature triggered multiplier switching. CPUFSB is a FSB only version of CPUcool that you might find more convenient to trigger with MBM5. SoftFSB may be better for some older motherboards. SpeedFan is another util with potentials to be used here. Time scheduling utils could also be used if you have regular hot/cool cycle, like temps always peak between 2pm-8pm and cool off between, or maybe the 'rents only run the AC a few hours every evening.

ii) Power. Wall power can be extra glitchy on hot days in the summer, due to higher usage load by aircons, fridges etc and by transformers and substations overheating etc. Aquiring even a modest sized UPS may help your rigs ride out the numerous breif glitches and brownouts. Failing that, if you've got any oversized PSUs hanging around or see some very cheap, consider using them on your folding rigs that are struggling along on the 250 or 300W ATXes that you had spare at the time. They will ride out minor glitches better with a larger PSU in. Also you will help to avoid overheating issues with maxed out PSUs. So if you've got a 550W hanging round waiting for something, let it wait in one of your folding rigs over the summer.

iii) Big packets hammer your RAM, if you've volted it and FSBed it to the limit, this inexpensive and ingeneous cooling device by Felinuz may be your answer to summer stability....
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=350891

iv) The magic of blowers, add a new lease of life to any old heatsink, get c/w figures as good as some waterblocks, get VERY IMPRESSIVE air cooling results for very little outlay....
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=370365

v) Ducting, you might only have so much airflow, but getting it to the right places is crucial. Experiment with cardboard and tape, implement more permanently if you prefer. Fresh air to the CPU fan intake is always a way to improve high temperature stability without having to replace a case with mediocre airflow characteristics with something spendy, or fit it with the equivalent of a Boeing 747's amount of static thrust in fans. One extra fan in the right place might do more than two more random intakes and exhausts.

vi) add threads here. Post all threads with inexpensive, highly efficient (bang per buck) cooling mods.


Q: ummm, "and win"?
A: You "win" we "win" the whole Team "wins" with better cooling this summer. :D


"Dig them in", and keep them folding,

Road Warrior
 
Good advice! I know I'll have to cut back on my dually for sure, unless I stick it in the basement. My main, likely have to too. :shrug:
 
great post, Road!

Cooling Tips

1. Big Box Fan. Sure, taking off the side of your computer doesn't do anything for the aesthetics, and it doesn't help cpu temps all that much, but a good box fan blowin' across the compy (from front to back)will give you a surprising drop in temps.

2. Dryer ducts from central air or windows AC. With no more cool air outside or even inside at times, we must do what we can. This is a great way to get some cool air into your borg.

3. TURN OFF YOUR LIGHTS! Not only in your compy room, but the ones inside your computer as well. I know you can't turn off all the led's and stuff, but if you have a Cold Cathode Tube, turn it off. It generates some heat to run (from PSU pull). If you have extra peripherals in your compy you don't use much, pull them out unless needed, as its just extra heat from PSU power pull.

4. To cool your room down, and thus lower ambients, instead of box fan in front of Computer, Point the fan out of the room. By blowing all the heat out, the cooler air in surrounding areas comes into the room. If you do not believe me, try it both ways (blowing in and blowing out). Blowing the heat out works much faster.

5. Open your windows at night and let cool air in. You'd be surprised at how much this helps in summer.

6. Leave compy room door open. Even if you don't have fan blowing air out to circulate it, just natural inversion of the air helps a little bit.
 
These work great to keep the dust out in the first place. I've used them for a couple years now. Trim to fit. Work great with minimal trimming on Aspire, Chieftec, and Antec server cases. I've measured and they only raise case temperature .5 degree. Be sure to change them every 30-60 days depending on the environment. Webproducts Vent Filters
 
Nice guide here. Change the title to like FAH summer survival guide and I may vote for a sticky. Atleast for like 2 months until summer is already in full swing.
 
:thup: This is our summer, alright!!!

and to add to the cheap ideas and mods up there: taking off your case panel :D I know some people have pets or kids mucking around, and you don't need phalanges stuck in your fans, but if possible it's a fast way to drop temps. Maybe think about sending a panel off to performance-pcs, they do fan holes for $19 and return shipping. a pretty good deal, I think.
 
Good advices.
We have to try hard, as current production graph is dropping very fast. If that doesn't change , we'll get owned...
 
vii)Open frame rigs, "layer" farms, yatta monsters, open cases....
My rigs are wide open, I can't do more to improve cooling can I? Actually, you can. Heatsink-Fans tend to churn hot air back into the top of the fan. Imagine a rotating do-nut of hot air all around the HSF.. not a pretty thought is it? Avoiding this situation can make a lot of difference to the CPU temp. I've got a "flowerpot venturi" stuck on top of my tornado+AX-7, without it, my CPU runs 4-5C hotter, and the tornado is a tall fan. I've measured air temps with an indoor outdoor thermometer, over that setup, even at 20C, up to half the air getting sucked into the fan is at 30C, only the middle sucks in the cooler air, so despite the ambient being 20C the average temp of the CPU intake air is 25C. In high ambients, that's the difference between lock and not. You can either fit a simple "venturi" "velocity stack" or duct on top of the fan, even just a couple of inches height can make a big difference. It needn't be fancy. Use anything of about the right size, "big gulp" cup, juice can, flower pot, whatever. Alternatively, if you don't have spare height to play with, a baffle plate can be used. Just a flat plate 2 inches larger all round at least than the fan will keep the airflow better seperated. You can either put it on top of or underneath the fan. Using a metallic baffle plate or juice can duct fixed under the fan with contact on the sink may be advantageous in that it adds extra active thermal area for heat to be dissipated from. Or there's a combo of the two if you're stuck for height and horizontal space, use something like a plastic or metal soup bowl, 2 for $1 at the dollar store. But do it with metal or do it with cardboard or jam half a Mickey-D cup on top, it will make a difference.

viii) Downgrade your dedicated rigs. If it's a dedicated folding rig, and you never do anything else on it, why does it need your discarded GF2 or even FX5500 or 8500 sitting in there? Those are probably using a miniumum of 20W, by the time you account for PSU and mosfet inefficiency they probably account for about 40W of extra heat in the rig and in the room. An old 2Mb PCI card should be fine for when you need to plug a monitor in and check/work on it (You don't have a powered up monitor connected to it 24/7 do you? Shame!) and will only cause about 5W worth of heating. The same goes for soundcards, if you just happen to have one in there because it's your old rig, yank it, it's probably sucking 10W or accounting for 20W worth of heat after inefficiencies. Not sure if disabling onboard sound in BIOS will power it down or use less power, but you could try it. Any extra cards in dedicated rigs are a heat problem, SCSI card for your old scanner, yank it. Extra parallel port card, yank it. If you've got 2 or 3 "retired" PCs folding for you, that used to be someone's main rig, then stripping them down in this way may save you a whole rigs worth of heat and power.

ix) Location Location Location. If you are the master of your household, you will of course have more flexibility here than if you are living with someone. In houses that don't have AC, the perfect location for your folding rigs, would be near the north wall in the basement, or having no basement, in a room with a north wall. North-East corner is premium, the morning sun isn't that hot and has a lot of night time cooling to catch up with. The perfect setup for household airflow, would be window or box fans on the north side blowing in, and on the south side blowing out. North side fans will pick up cool air from the shady side of the house. Now if you have you have cased rigs in a north room, consider this, where is the coolest air? It is likely to be against the wall, the wall is probably cooler than the air in the room, and will have a cool draft flowing down it. Use this to your advantage and place your rigs "backwards" near the wall. Since conventionally air intakes are at the front and exhausts are out the back, get your intakes closer to the cooler air, and face your boxen to the wall, have the hot air blowing out into the room. If you get really ambitious, you could get a 8x4 piece of plywood and stand it up on it's long side 6 to 8 inches from the wall, cut slots for your rigs in the bottom, so their fronts poke through when they're sitting on the floor, so you've got a giant baffle to make the most of the cool air from the north wall.


"Dig them in", and keep them folding,

Road Warrior
 
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x) Move to a cooler room. I moved my rigs from my upstairs room, to my downstairs room directly 10 feet below. My ambient temps cut 8C to 28C on full load. If your ambient case temps are high, or you can feel the top of your case is warm, get a blow hole installed in the top. My case used to get up to 40C ambient on full load and the top of the case was getting very warm. The velcro holding the lights in place literally melted! :eek: Putting a low noise 120mm fan in the top cut temps by about 5C.
 
most excellent advice as i've actually started to notice that my rig is starting to rise a few degrees but do to some new insulation in our attic my whole rooms hot so i've been leaving windows open for now....probably once summer hits it should fair ok but if not i'll definately need to start looking into cheap ways to cool this thing....i don't know as i can do it with more fans though....my room's ambient noise is sitting at a pretty decent level right now.....if i can scratch together 2 decent window fans i'll "duct" my room with one window pulling and one pushing in
 
My folding farm is in the basement.... It is always cool down there.... plus in cleaning out room for the farm me and my dad found a huge squirel cage fan that measures 24"x16"x16"

Great guide..... not sure about the sticky.... but it should get emailed, PM'd, phone'd, and tattooed on everyone that folds for team32
 
xi) Put down your blinds! You'd be suprised how many people leave their blinds up during the summer. Put down the blinds and your house will magically stay cool during the day! Also, people heat up rooms too, so go outside and get some Vitamin D for a change.

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Don't forget your borgs

Great guide here! The thing I would like to add is your borgs at work or at someones house. Now might be a good time to service the computers you do not see every day, and check out the temps to make sure they are ok.

I have several borgs at work. Unfortunantly, I had to remove FAH a few weeks ago from my most productive borg! It is in a hot room, so for safty it is gone untill fall. I also make sure all my borgs get a good heatsink cleaning every month or so.

In short, if someone lets you run folding on their machine, check on it when the temps rise and make sure there are no problems!

Have a good one!

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Yes...get your spray cans ready folks...it's VERY important your rigs (and rooms!) are free of dust.

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holy wow i know it's not summer yet but i setup a window fan exhaust for my room, opened both windows, took my case panel off cranked all of my fans up before i left for a trip and got back at 1am to see these temps (@FAH load) needless to say my room is giving me nippons as we speak.....
 

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the only way i could remotely keep that pulled off would be have my tower in the other room but everything else still right here.....i personally cannot do well in <60F room temps......
 
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