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Swiftech MCW462-U vs. Dangerden Maze2?

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Fluxer

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I'm setting up my own water cooling system for my computer with the follow:

- Eheim 1048 inline pump
- 3/8" tubing with Swiftech MCW462-U or 1/2" with Dangerden Maze2
- Heater Core from an auto parts shop, probably a Ford one.
- Silicone tubing.

What will offer better performance (the Swiftech MCW462-U or Dangerden Maze2 Waterblock) and offer an easy way to mount and apply the proper amount of pressure. I will be using this with a Pentium 4 (socket 478) Northwood processor that will be overclocked. I don't mind spending 20 more dollars or so for the Swiftech waterblock if it will perform better.

Thanks...
 
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Fluxer

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Actually it was a question, I was asking which will perform better, the Swiftech MCW462-U or Dangerden Maze2 Waterblock. Maybe I wasn't clear enough though, oops. A reply soon would be appreciated, I think i'm ordering the stuff tomorrow so I need to know ) Right now i'm thinking i'll get the Swiftech one though I do see many people using the Maze2.
 

Yodums

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I think the Maze 2 is more popular wise, and has a better performance than the Swiftech block. Although I've heard lots of Gemeni's on how good they are and 3-4 degrees better than the Maze 2.
 

Mr. $T$

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The water cooling section on the home page of overclockers will tell you everything you need to know.

My personal choice is the swifty The Maze close second.
 
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I think i'm going to get the swifty, seems like a good waterblock though the new Koolance PC-200 waterblock seems like it is going to be nice - its supposed to be copper coated with silver and extremely easy to mount using sliding clips.
 

JoeCrappa

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you people!!! WELCOME TO THE FORUMS amd_builder

yodums i'm disappointed...you out of all people should have noticed. I would pick the maze2 over the swiftech. but the gemini cool WB's seem to be better than anything out right now. they have some good engineering in them.
 

f155mph

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Gemini don't make one for the P4. So I would go with the Maze2. I am using one right now and it idle at 30c and load at 32c on my P4. My ambient is like 76-80F. Mounting wise they both uses the 4 holes on the mobo. You will have to get the adapter plate from Danger Den for the maze2. So the price will be about the same. Two reasons I don't like the Swifty.
1. The hose diameter they use is very small.
2. They mix alum and copper together which is bad.
 

res0r9lm

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f155mph said:
Gemini don't make one for the P4. So I would go with the Maze2. I am using one right now and it idle at 30c and load at 32c on my P4. My ambient is like 76-80F. Mounting wise they both uses the 4 holes on the mobo. You will have to get the adapter plate from Danger Den for the maze2. So the price will be about the same. Two reasons I don't like the Swifty.
1. The hose diameter they use is very small.
2. They mix alum and copper together which is bad.
first of all swiftech uses andozied alumiminum and second most people would replace those fitting anyway. hoot just did a review on all three blocks and the maze came in last and gemini came in first. I hate those fitting on the gemini looks cheesey.
 

f155mph

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True but not everyone is willing to drill out those fittings on a $55 block and hope it doesn't leak.
 

Tecumseh

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OF the two choices you picked, I'd go with the
DD Maze2. There **may** be mounting issues.
See Hoot's shootout article. I personally think you
should use a non-conductive, anodized aluminum
shim with the Maze2 to increase spanning distance
to make sure the block is exactly square with the die.
 

res0r9lm

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Tecumseh said:
OF the two choices you picked, I'd go with the
DD Maze2. There **may** be mounting issues.
See Hoot's shootout article. I personally think you
should use a non-conductive, anodized aluminum
shim with the Maze2 to increase spanning distance
to make sure the block is exactly square with the die.
the mounting system is an important selling point for me. I have always heard good thing about the maze 2. quite frankly I was suprized to hear of the mouting problem. perhaps it was just a defect with this one block.
 

Hoot

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f155mph said:
True but not everyone is willing to drill out those fittings on a $55 block and hope it doesn't leak.

You don't have to drill the MCW-462u to put conventional barbs in it. You just snap out the quick disconnect hardware, goober up the conventional barb with JBWeld and stick it into the hole. FWIW, the holes are so large, you can get either a 9/32 ID barb (3/8 OD) or a 3/8 ID barb (1/2 OD) in the holes. Even though you dont have to drill on the cover, it's still a fairly permanent modification as It would be very tough getting the JBWeld out of the holes should you change your mind.

Hoot
 

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Hoot said:


You don't have to drill the MCW-462u to put conventional barbs in it. You just snap out the quick disconnect hardware, goober up the conventional barb with JBWeld and stick it into the hole. FWIW, the holes are so large, you can get either a 9/32 ID barb (3/8 OD) or a 3/8 ID barb (1/2 OD) in the holes. Even though you dont have to drill on the cover, it's still a fairly permanent modification as It would be very tough getting the JBWeld out of the holes should you change your mind.

Hoot

Thats the info i was looking for.:)

I have not been too happy with my DD Maze2 block with 1/2" fitings. I've tied everything with it. I was getting better temps with my BeCooling Jagged Edge waterblock.