T-Bred and Palamino Whats the diff ?

[GimliHDC]

I know this sounds totally n00b, but what is the real difference between the two?
I have a 1700+ Pal
and a 2200+ T-Bred
They seem to run about the same.
What are the advantages of one over the other?


Thanks,


xX-GimliHDC-Xx

 

[AllenSmoker]

Tbred has a smaller core that uses less voltage and produces less heat. Most prefer the tbred-B at lower speeds because of how well they overclock.

 

[altec]

The pally's had a larger core, ran hotter, and generally did not overclock very well. Then the t'bred A's were released, and AMD reduced to core's size, used less voltage consumption so that the chip ran cooler, and made them more overclocker friendly. The t'bred's are all factory unlocked and you will get all the multipliers on them as long as you board can read the 8x bit on the chip. Afterthis the t'bred B silicon process for the higher speed XP's and started placing them in the "downgraded" XP's. These are great overclockers. All the members you see hitting in the 2.2 - 2.5Ghz range, are most likely doing it on a t'bred B. T'bred B's are the chips you want to be looking for for overclocking...

 

[JungleMan]

The pally's had a larger core, ran hotter, and generally did not overclock very well.

Except for the AGOIA 1600s...how quickly we forget those

I still have one, running 500Mhz above default. Hot little mama though

 

[David]

The Palominos were the first AthlonXPs, introduced the PR for AMD CPUs, and ran from XP1500+ to XP2200+ (Or 2000+, not sure).

The Palominos used a 0.18 micron process, meaning that transistors were 0.18micrometers (10^-6) wide. They included SSE instruction support (an Intel instruction set for speeding up some calculations) and performed more work per clock cycle than previous AMD CPUs. They were OK at overclocking, but the 1600+s were pretty good. Asj has a 1600+ at 1.73GHz at stock voltage, a 333MHz overclock. A bit more voltage and cooling, and 1.8GHz is easily possible.

Then came the Thoroughbred, based on a 0.13micron process. This means that less power is required, as the parts are smaller, and less heat is emitted. TBred A's, as a rule didnt overclock that well. Tbred Bs were a revison to the 'A' core, and overclock a lot better. They run at 1.5 or 1.6Volts.

Your 'ideal' Tbred B for overclocking is probably a AIUHB DLT3C CPU.

 

[james.miller]

T/bred 'a's actually ran hotter, unless im mistaken. the were smaller, but only used marginally less power. same power over smaller surface area = more heat to deal with. that was fixed with the tbred 'b'.

the best tbred's for overclocking are currently the 1.5volt JIUHB DLT3C 1700+'s.

 

[Ben721]

T/bred 'a's actually ran hotter, unless im mistaken.

Yes you are correct.

They do run hotter.