Tec/Pelt Users Gimme advice :)

[Dissolved]

Im about 70% sure about running a triple pelt system ie cpu, nb, gpu, and i was looking on ebay, and theres psu's there would work for me and there under 75 bucks. so i think ive FINALLY Desided to go pelt. i want 2ghz
So i was wondering if any one with a tec/pelt could give me your idea's, pictures, details, etc..

 

[zoopa_man]

Not sure exactly what your looking for info wise...but check my sig to see what a 80w pelt will do on a celeron Tulatin OC.

Power supply wise it's really going to depend on what size pelts you choose to run. Astron makes superior power supplies. And remember that with power suplies you get what you pay for.

On the north birdge i remember seeing a article about doing that. and in the end the guy ended up concluding that it really didn't give him much more benifit then just a plain old pentium heatsink and fan.

Also take a look throught past articles I think there's one about watercooling the GPU with similar findings...not really worth all the trouble.

It's a lot of work to do pelts and there not the save all solution to overclocking to what ever speed you want. Even pelt cooled systems have their limit because the hard ware just won't go any faster. I'm not trying to talk you out of going pelts by any means, Just saying don't expect anything unreasonable.

Another thing your going to have to keep in mind is that your going to have to cool a ton of heat watts with three pelts. That's going to take a decent sized radiator. Like a black ice extreme or better big heater core.

If you have any questions that are more spsfic let us know. Were always willing to help out.

 

[Dissolved]

well if i go pelt, i want like total slience. thats what im going for. simple water cooling wouldnt give me the temps i want. i mean i want my ti500 at 300/600, and i want 2ghz from my 1900+. thats what im looking for.
the only thing id be worried about is the pelt dieing, and my cpu frying..

 

[Malakai]

sealing the mobo from condensation is a real *****, ive read a bunch of articles on sealing. i'd be too worried about condensation, thats why no pelt 4 me
-Malakai

 

[racecar12]

well if i go pelt, i want like total slience. thats what im going for. simple water cooling wouldnt give me the temps i want. i mean i want my ti500 at 300/600, and i want 2ghz from my 1900+. thats what im looking for.
the only thing id be worried about is the pelt dieing, and my cpu frying..

You are asking for alot of work and also alot more heat for removal.

A few pointers. The pelt should be 2 times+ the output wattage of the divice to be cooled. The psu for the pelts needs to be 2 times stronger than the total amps of draw from the pelts so it is not straining and or overheating.

Pletier cooling does not mean quiter systems cause you still have to cool the heat produced, and if you do it right, you will essentially more than double the heat output of your system. Now your watercooling system needs to be top notch if you do decide to pelt cool all the items you are thinking about.

r12

 

[Dissolved]

sealing the mobo from condensation is a real *****, ive read a bunch of articles on sealing. i'd be too worried about condensation, thats why no pelt 4 me
-Malakai

True, but ill be useing my amd 760 mobo, im gonna toss the kt333. so if it kills the mobo, then oh well.. i just wanna pertect my ti500 and stuff.

 

[zoopa_man]

sealing for condensation is a real time consuming project all in it's self..

If your going for total silence I guess your on the right path. But your going to need to run fans on you radiator to blow cool air through it. The only way I would see around that is to get one honker of a radiator and set it outside your case. Something in the way of a bus sized radiator and they aren’t cheep at all.

You could go just water cooling and use a refrigerator to cool your radiator / water...that may be a easier setup then peltiers. I bet a small fridge is going to be less expensive then the power supply it's going to take to run three pelts for sure. The question there is will the fridge be very quiet ? I don't know....ask someone with a fridge system. With a fridge you'd still have to insulate your board and the water tubes coming out of the fridge.

 

[Dissolved]

id like to run a fridge, but i desided it takes up too much room. and a fridge setup would be a lil less then a psu and a few pelts..
so i dunno, the thing ive been doing for months is gathering info, So money wise i think im about to start doing stuff.. but i dunno what to do yet

 

[Silversinksam]

Its going to be tough to get total silence with the amount of TEC'age' your thinking about, If you want total silence I suggest you get some advise from Bladerunner

Here's Blades site Zero Fan Zone

Blade is a really nice guy and he is my Watercooling Guru, Shoot him an e-mail

 

[Dissolved]

yea, i talked with him a few times..
see my moms bf is a air conditioning&fridge/heating pro, but hes clueless about computers and he doesnt wanna help cuz hes afaird he may kill the pc. SO ive been trying for months to get someone to go with me step my step, but ppl online are just way to busy to help me. im a Very detailed person, i have to know EVERYthing.
So blade makes everything himself, and he wont sell any cuz he wouldnt have the time. and he doesnt have any im clients and i HATE emailing ppl. thats way to long of a wait as im very impaient.
So any Silver, i was messing round with that pelt u gave me.. and i epoxyed it to a hsf i had, and i cant get it off! gawd that was one of the dumbest things ive ever done in my life. it was a wak-38, probly one of the best GW all alum hsf's so i just killed like 45 dollars.. dumb me..
well you guys can probly see my frustration.. i just dunno what to do with this cooling deal..

 

[JoeCrappa]

Sealing your motherboard for condensation is SCARY. I didn't think my comp would boot after putting all that petroleum jelly in the socket. But it works fine and my OC is good. Overall I think insulating your motherboard is not that time consuming. I had my fridge mod running within one afternoon. 8 hours. Only took about 2 hours to insulate the motherboard. 30 mins for the silicone to dry and thats about all.

 

[Dissolved]

well at 17c, and you only got 200mhz on your 2000+?
thats why i dont wanna go spend 300 bucks to gain 200mhz. if whatever i do i want the best gain i can get. 200mhz isnt enough for me.

I just got done talking to my grandpa and he may have a psu for me. so i maybe even in luck. so then id have just to buy the pelts pump, tubeing gpu block etc..

Another idea my grandpa told me is that if i ran the pelts on 12v, then i could use a Car battery. Car batterys have Really high ampage and give 12v consistenly. a battery and a simple car battery charger would be as good as a 80~150 dollar psu. im sure i could get a used battery from a auto store, and i allready have a charger my moms bf got.

So i have all the idea's and i think im as close as every to doing an Extreme cooling mod, i just need the pros to step up and help me, cuz ive never done anything like this be4.

 

[racecar12]

well at 17c, and you only got 200mhz on your 2000+?
thats why i dont wanna go spend 300 bucks to gain 200mhz. if whatever i do i want the best gain i can get. 200mhz isnt enough for me.

I just got done talking to my grandpa and he may have a psu for me. so i maybe even in luck. so then id have just to buy the pelts pump, tubeing gpu block etc..

Another idea my grandpa told me is that if i ran the pelts on 12v, then i could use a Car battery. Car batterys have Really high ampage and give 12v consistenly. a battery and a simple car battery charger would be as good as a 80~150 dollar psu. im sure i could get a used battery from a auto store, and i allready have a charger my moms bf got.

So i have all the idea's and i think im as close as every to doing an Extreme cooling mod, i just need the pros to step up and help me, cuz ive never done anything like this be4.

Don't expect a mirical overclock by cooling the cpu. A batter and battery charger will work ans long as the battery charger is some what indutrial and capable of double the amp of the pelts total. Otherwise your system will suck down both the battery and the charger. You may have missed my earlier post ^^^ re-read

 

[Dissolved]

no offence but everyone ive talked to told me that pelts need 75% of power. even DDen says the 24v pelts need at least 18v, the 16v need at least 12v and so on..

 

[racecar12]

no offence but everyone ive talked to told me that pelts need 75% of power. even DDen says the 24v pelts need at least 18v, the 16v need at least 12v and so on..

OK a pelt is most efficient at 75% of its max rated output. The device powering the setup should be bouble the max rating of the pelt as far as current(amps) goes.

 

[Dissolved]

OK a pelt is most efficient at 75% of its max rated output. The device powering the setup should be bouble the max rating of the pelt as far as current(amps) goes.

ok good thats what i figured, but you fused me, thanks for the clearifacation (how ever thats spelled )

 

[racecar12]

I'll try to make it a little more understadable. My 220w pelt is rated with 16v max with 24amp output. At 75% of its max requirement.... supply of 12v will be most efficient for teh max rating for the pelt. By lowering the volts the imax(amps) will drop to around 22-23amps. So my psu needs to be capable of at least a 12v output with a current output capable of at least 40amps continuous output so as to have the headroom to continually push 22-23 amps and not overwhelm the psu.

Is that better?

 

[Dissolved]

yea i understand..

Errr i dunno whats the best thing to do..

 

[Silversinksam]

Dissolved,

Next time only add the Arctic silver adhesive(or whatever you used) to 4 corners of the TEC and thermal goop on the rest of the area......that way a razor knife can be used to remove the TEC.

 

[Dissolved]

Dissolved,

Next time only add the Arctic silver adhesive(or whatever you used) to 4 corners of the TEC and thermal goop on the rest of the area......that way a razor knife can be used to remove the TEC.

heh, yea i dunno what i was thinking..