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Super Nade

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-=The DRAM Stable Settings Thread=-

Folks,

We often see many of us new to a particular type of memory, spend loads of time getting them to run stable at optimal settings. Sucka and I have decided to put together a database, comprising solely of the results obtained by our members. While many such databases exist, more numbers are always welcome. Our database would offer the additional convenience of sorting results by manufacturers and the chips their modules are comprised of.

In a significant departure from other databases, we would like you to post ALL your stable timings, at reasonably overclocked frequencies. It is quite clear that one set of modules have various points of stability at a single frequency. This could result in compromising Bandwidth at the expense of stability etc. We would like to hear about your experience in such matters and hence, actively seek your comments. The rationale behind this is to offer people a variety of options. Quite often, copying somebody else's settings won't work. However, these is a greater probability of hitting the jackpot with many settings to choose from! I will post your best results in the database for compactness. The link will carry over to your log/settings thread.

Treat this like a personal testing logbook.


Peliminary assesment and preperation:
Before you start off tweaking your RAM, I would strongly recommend throughly reading these guides by Sucka and hitechjb1.
TCCD v/s UTT results and analysis
DDR600 Stability with the NF4
Overclocking sandbox for A64 939 systems with Winchester and beyond


What we need from you:

Motherboard and CPU:
DRAM Make, Model and Chips:
Timing tables and Comments:
<Feel free to post multiple tables, DO NOT edit them once posted. Make a new table and add a comment for each change you make>

Sample





-=Database=-
(* Copied from the Sticky in this section, thanks to Suma! *)

Corsair
- XMS-PC2700C2:
Micron (6ns)
- XMS-PC2700C2 Rev1.2 and above
Winbond CH-6
- XMS-PC2700LL (2-2-2-6): Samsung TCB3, then Winbond BH-6, rare but existent with Winbond BH-5, all Winbond CH-6 now
- XMS-PC3000C2
Samsung 6ns TCB3, Winbond BH-6
- XMS-PC3200C2 Rev1.1
Winbond BH-6
- XMS-PC3200C2 Rev1.2 and above
Winbond CH-6
- XMS-PC3200LL Rev1.1
Winbond BH-5
- XMS-PC3200LL Rev1.2
Winbond CH-5
- XMS-3200LLPT (2-2-2-6-1T)
Winbond BH-5
- XMS/TwinX-PC3200LL Rev1.1 (DualPack)
Winbond BH-5
- XMS/TwinX-PC3200LL Rev1.2 (DualPack)
Winbond CH-5
- XMS-PC3200XL (2-2-2-5):
Samsung TCCD 4ns (Revision "F")
- XMS-PC3500C2 Rev1.1
Winbond BH-5
- XMS-PC3700
Samsung -5 rev. E (TCCC)
- XMS-PC4000
Hynix D43 rev. b
- XMS-PC4400 Rev1.1
Hynix D5
-XL PC3200
TCC5
RedDragonXXX, 290MHz, 3.2V ,2.5-4-3-8



PDP PATRIOT
- PDP PATRIOT PC3200-XBLK
SAMSUNG TCCD

Super Nade, 2.5-4-3-10, 2.9V, 300MHz


TwinMos

- TwinMOS Pc2700
AH-6, BH-6 or TwinMOS rebadged chips.
- TwinMOS Pc3200
CH-5, BH-5 or TwinMOS rebadged chips.
- TwinMOS Twister PC3200
Most use Hynix D4 chips
- TwinMOS Twister PC4000
Samsung TCCC, Hynix D43



Kingston
- HyperX PC2700 (2-2-2-5-1T) (KHX 2700)
Winbond BH-6, Samsung TCB3 or Winbond CH-6
- HyperX PC3000 (2-2-2-6-1T) (KHX 3000)
Mainly Winbond BH-5, some BH-6 and also some CH-5
- HyperX PC 3200 (old revision, not AK2, K2 or A) (KHX 3200)
Winbond BH-5
- HyperX PC 3200K2 (2-2-2-6-1T) (KHX 3200K2)
Winbond BH-5
- HyperX PC 3200AK2 (2-3-2-6-1T) (KHX 3200AK2)
Winbond CH-5
- HyperX PC 3200UL (2-2-2-5)
Samsung TCCD 4ns (Revision "F")
- HyperX PC 3500 (rated 2-3-3-7 @ 433Mhz, 2-2-2-6 @ 400Mhz, old revision) (KHX 3500)
Winbond BH-5
- HyperX PC 3500K2 (2-3-3-7) (KHX 3500K2)
Winbond CH-5
- HyperX PC 4000K2 (3-4-4-8) (KHX 4000K2)
Samsung TCCC, Hynix D43 maybe even some D5s
- HyperX PC 4300K2 (3-4-4-8) (KHX 4300K2)
Hynix D5
- Kingston Ram w/remarked Chips as D328DW-45
Before Week 18 Year 03 Winbond BH-5, after CH-5 (18 03 can be both)
- Kingston Ram w/remarked Chips as D328DW-50
Winbond BH-5
- Kingston Ram w/remarked Chips as D328DW-60
Winbond BH-6
- Value Ram 333Mhz (KVR333X64C25)
may or may not contain Winbond BH-6, look at the chips
- Value Ram 400Mhz (KVR400X64C25)
may or may not contain Winbond BH-5, CH-5 or Hynix BT-D43 look at the chips



OCZ
- EL DDR PC3200 Platinium Limited Edition (2-2-2-7)
Winbond BH-6
- EL DDR PC3500 Platinium Limited Edition (2-2-3-6)
Winbond BH-5
- EB DDR PC3200 Platinium Edition (2,5-3-2-8)
Micron -5B C (5ns)
-OCZ EL DDR PC-3200 Dual Channel Gold (2-2-2-5)
Winbond BH-5
Cozmo_d, ?, 2.8V
- EB DDR PC3500 Platinium Edition (2,5-3-2-8)
Micron -5B C (5ns)
- EB DDR PC3700 Platinium Edition (3-2-2-8/3-3-2-8)
Micron -5B C (5ns)
- PC3700 Gold Rev 2
ProMos (Mosel Chips)
- PC3700 Gold Rev 3
Hynix DT-D5
- EL DDR PC3200 Platinium Edition (2-3-2-5)
Winbond CH-5
- EL DDR PC3500 Platinium Edition (2-3-2-5)
Winbond CH-5
- DDR PC3200 Platinium Edition rev2 (2-2-2-6)
Samsung 4ns TCCD
- EL PC3700 Platinum (2-3-3-8)
Samsung TCCD 4ns (Revision "F") (Uses Brain Power PCB)
- EL PC4000 (3-4-4-8)
Hynix D43
- EL PC4000 Gold (2.5-4-4-8)
Hynix BT-D5, Hynix CT-D5
- EL PC4000 Gold Rev2 (2.5-3-3-8)
Hynix DT-D5
- EL PC4200 (3-4-4-8)
Hynix D43 or Hynix D5
- EL PC4200 Platinum (2.5-3-3-8)
Samsung TCCD 4ns (Revision "F"), TCC5
Eldonko, 2.5-4-4-10, 3.1V, 313MHz
- EL PC4400 (3-4-4-8)
Hynix D5
- EL PC4400 Gold (2.5-4-4-8)
Hynix B
- Gold VX PC4000
UTT
Sucka, 1.5-2-2-5, 3.4V, 265MHz



PQI
- Turbo PC3200 (2-2-2-5)
Samsung TCCD 4ns (Revision "F") (Uses Brain Power PCB)



Mushkin
- PC3200 (Non Level X, rated 2-2-2-6)
Winbond BH-5
- PC3200 Level I
Winbond CH-5, Mosel chips
- PC3200 Level II
Winbond BH-5 or BH-6(?)
- PC3200 Special 2-2-2
Winbond BH-6
- PC3200 Level II V2
Samsung TCCD/TCC5 4n (Revision "F")
- PC3500 Level I
Winbond CH-5
- PC3500 Level II
Winbond BH-5
- PC4000
Hynix D5
-Redline XP PC4000
UTT
Dread-Star, 262MHz, 3.5V, 2-2-2-5 1T



Buffalo
- PC2700 (CAS 2.5)
Infineon, Micron, Samsung chips
- Buffalo PC3200 (CAS 3)
Infineon, Micron, Samsung chips
- Buffalo PC3500
Infineon, Micron, Samsung chips...had Micron mT -5B C recently
- Buffalo FireStix PC3500 (3-3-3-8)
Hynix B, Micron mT -5B C
- Buffalo PC3700
Winbond BH-5, Micron mT -5B C
- Buffalo FireStix PC4000 (3-4-4-8)
Hynix B



GSkill
- G.Skill TCCD (2-2-2-5 @ DDR400, 2.5-3-3-6 @ DDR500, 3-4-4-8 @ DDR560)
Samsung TCCD 4ns (Revision "F")



Crucial
- Ballistix PC3200 (2-2-2-5 1T): Micron mT -5B G
- Ballistix PC4000 (2.5-2-3-8 1T): Micron mT -5B G



A-Data

- PC2700 (cl2,5)
could be Winbond AH-6 or BH-6
- PC3200
Winbond CH-5
- PC3200 Special Edition
Winbond BH-5
- PC4000 (3-4-4-8)
Hynix D43, D5, Samsung TCCC
- PC4000 Vitesta (3-4-4-8)
Hynix D43, might be D5
- PC4800 Vitesta
Hynix 3,5 ns
 
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Super Nade

Super Nade

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Motherboard : DFI NF4 Ultra-D
DRAM Make, Model and Chips : PDP Patriot XBLK PC3200, TCCD
Timing tables and comments :

Table #1:
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Motherboard and CPU: Lanparty Ultra-D, Venice 3200 LBBLE 0516DPHW
Bios: 6-23-x
CPU: 3200 Venice LBBLE 0516DPHW
VC: XFX 6600GT 71.89, Video BIOS version 5.43.02.57
OS: Windows XP Home w/SP2
Ram: PDP XBLK PC3200 (TCCD) In the #2 and #4 (Orange) Dimm slots
Chipset Drivers: Revision 6.39 (w/out IDE or Firewall Drivers)

DRAM Timings:
  • Ram Multi 200 1:1
    CPC ENABLED
    Tcl 2.5
    Trcd 04
    Tras 10
    Trp 03
    Trc 10
    Trfc 20
    Trrd 02
    Twr 03
    Twtr 01
    Trwt 08
    Tref 3.9us, 166MHz (see tweaker screen)
    Twcl 01
    Bank Inter EN
    Dynamic Skew Control Auto (Off)
    Skew Value 0
    Fastest
    DRAM Drive Strength 07
    DRAM Data Drive Strength 01
    Max Async 8ns
    Read Preamble 5ns
    Idle Cycle 256
    Dynamic Counter AUTO
    R/W Que Bypass 16X
    Bypass MAx 7X
    32 Bit Gran DIS


Voltages etc:

  • HTT 300
    LDT X3
    Cpu Multi X9
    PCE-I 100
    Vcore Startup
    Vcore 1.425
    Vcore Special 113%

    LDT V 1.3
    Chipset V 1.6
    Vdimm 2.9
    Dram +0.03 DISABLED


Comments:

  • - Surprisingly, These settings go against most of my observations with my other sets. The most important point was that I had to reset the CMOS before even switching back to 512 x 2 from 512 x4 ! With the same settings, I kept getting BSOD's. When I reset the CMOS, boom.. 32M stability!

    Please reset your CMOS if you change modules.


    - Note that my bandwidth is about 600 points lower than those who have 2.5-3-3-x settings. The tREF timings also contribute to a BW loss, with the 1.95 us settings > 3.9 us etc in terms of Bandwidth scores.

    -These scores are highly dependent on which stick goes in which slot. I have labelled the sticks A and B for this purpose. Switching places results in an instant BSOD. I have no concrete explanation for this other than the possibility that there is a weaker stick and that the DIMM Slots don't behave identically. There could be a DRAM Voltage difference in the slots.

Screenshots:
300mhz32mstablehighbw23ni.jpg

300mhz32mstablehighbw18jk.jpg



Table #2
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Motherboard: Lanparty Ultra-D
Bios: 5-10-3
CPU: 3200 Venice LBBLE 0516DPHW
VC: XFX 6600GT 71.89, Video BIOS version 5.43.02.57
OS: Windows XP Home w/SP2
Ram: PDP XBLK PC3200 (TCCD) In the #2 and #4 (Orange) Dimm slots
Chipset Drivers: Revision 6.39 (w/out IDE or Firewall Drivers)

DRAM Timings:
  • Ram Multi 183 9:10
    CPC ENABLED
    Tcl 2.5
    Trcd 04
    Tras 10
    Trp 04
    Trc 8
    Trfc 14
    Trrd 02
    Twr 03
    Twtr 02
    Trwt 08
    Tref 2336
    Twcl 01
    Bank Inter EN
    Dynamic Skew Control Auto (Off)
    Skew Value 0
    DRAM Drive Strength 07
    DRAM Data Drive Strength 02
    Max Async 8ns
    Read Preamble 5ns
    Idle Cycle 256
    Dynamic Counter DIS
    R/W Que Bypass 16X
    Bypass MAx 7X
    32 Bit Gran DIS


Voltages etc:

  • HTT 300
    LDT X3
    Cpu Multi X9
    PCE-I 101
    Vcore Startup
    Vcore 1.400
    Vcore Special 113%
    LDT V 1.3
    Chipset V 1.6
    Vdimm 2.9
    Dram +0.03 Enabled


Extra Notes and observations:

  • - If TWCL was set to 02 instead of 01, I had to reset the CMOS. TWCL always at 01
    - Dynamic counter is best left disabled, otherwise I got massive amounts of Test #5 errors (718 to be precise)!
    - Number of errors decreased when I tuned off the full screen logo and USB. I believe disabling extra unused perephiral devices aids in improving stability
    - Data Drive strength HAD TO be set to level 2. This is a very critical parameter.
    -If Twtr was set to 01/03 instead of 02, there was no BOOT.
    -Setting Tref= HTT x 7.8us, rounded off to the highest value gave me stability. Still testing this theory.

Nice one Thunda! That is very impressive with 512 x 4!.

New settings with 512 x 2 Muskin Lvl II blk PC3500-BH5
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm using the 6/23-3 (still TCCD specific, but hey I'm getting good results!)


Last Updated:Oct 23, 2005
Motherboard: Lanparty Ultra-D
Bios: 6/23-3
CPU: 3200+ Venice (Rev E3)
VC: BFG 6800GT 81.85
OS: Windows XP Pro w/SP2
Ram: Mushkin lvl 2 Black PC3500 (Original BH-5) In the Yellow DIMM slots
Chipset Drivers: Revision 6.66 (w/out IDE)

DRAM Timings:
  • Ram Multi 200 1:1
    CPC ENABLED
    Tcl 2
    Trcd 02
    Tras 02
    Trp 02
    Trc 07
    Trfc 12
    Trrd 02
    Twr 02
    Twtr 01
    Trwt 02
    Tref 3072
    Twcl 01
    Bank Inter EN
    Dynamic Skew Control Increase
    Skew Value 255
    DRAM Drive Strength 06
    DRAM Data Drive Strength 01
    DRAM Response time: Fastest
    Max Async 9ns
    Read Preamble 5ns
    Idle Cycle 128
    Dynamic Counter EN
    R/W Que Bypass 16X
    Bypass MAx 7X
    32 Bit Gran DIS


Voltages etc:

  • HTT 270
    LDT X2.5
    Cpu Multi X10
    PCE-I 100
    Vcore Startup 1.525
    Vcore 1.450
    Vcore Special 113%
    LDT V 1.4
    Chipset V 1.7
    Vdimm 3.6 + DRAM .03 Enabled


Extra Notes and observations:

  • - If TWCL was set to 02 instead of 01, I had to reset the CMOS. TWCL always at 01

    - Data Drive strength can be set to level 8, but I'd have to loosen a few timings. I can choose between 6 and 8. 6 seems t0o get me more BW.

    -If Twtr was set to 01/03 instead of 02, there was no BOOT.

    - I tried tREF to AUTO and then picked off 3072 from a64 tewaker.

Proof of stability and other links:-
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=45474

bh5new1zh.jpg
 
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Sucka

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Location
Denver, CO
Motherboard : DFI NF4 SLI-DR
DRAM Make, Model and Chips : OCZ Gold VX PC4000, UTT
Timing tables and comments :

Table #1:
---------
Motherboard: Lanparty SLI-DR
Bios: 6/23-2 Beta
CPU: AMD A64 FX-57
VC: Sapphire x850 XT Cat 5.6
OS: Windows XP Professional w/SP1
Ram: OCZ Gold VX PC-4000 UTT
Chipset Drivers: Official 6.66

DRAM Timings:

* Ram Multi 200 1:1
CPC ENABLED
Tcl 1.5
Trcd 02
Tras 05
Trp 02
Trc 07
Trfc 15
Trrd 02
Twr 02
Twtr 01
Trwt 02
Tref 3120
Twcl 01
Bank Inter EN
Dynamic Skew Control Auto (Off)
Skew Value 0
Fast
DRAM Drive Strength 08
DRAM Data Drive Strength 01
Max Async 7ns
Read Preamble 5ns
Idle Cycle 16
Dynamic Counter DIS
R/W Que Bypass 16X
Bypass MAx 7X
32 Bit Gran DIS



Voltages etc:

* HTT 265
LDT X3
Cpu Multi X13
PCE-I 100
Vcore Startup
Vcore 1.475
Vcore Special 110%

LDT V 1.3
Chipset V 1.6
Vdimm 3.4
Dram +0.03 DISABLED

Comments:

This is the highest HTT i can obtain at the given voltage and maintain tight timings. Even one more HTT here will result in overall instability. I will test with higher voltage later and see if that does anything as far as overall speeds are concerned.

utt32mpi.jpg


TCCD to come.

HUGE Sticky on this one!!
 
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Sucka

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So me and Super Nade are the only ones with Memory here? :p

I'm gonna post my TCCD numbers here in a little bit, so place saver.
 

RedDragonXXX

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Highest stable OC at 290MHz with 3.2V on Vdimm and these are TCC5's!

Mobo: DFI NF4 Ultra-D
BIOS: 6/23-3
CPU: AMD 64 3500+ Winnie
RAM: Corsair XL DDR400 2-2-2-5/2.8V
VC: eVGA 6800 Ultra
Chipset Driver: 6.53
OS: XP Home







 

Sucka

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Dread, you can get some tighter timings with that memory i'm sure of it. Try the timings in my post and see what you come up with, i'll venture a guess you do better at the same clocks with the timings i have.

Also, can we get some 32m from you guys for "stable" testing. 1m tests really don't give us any hint of stability and that's what this thread is built around. I can post results/timings that aren't stable, but i don't want to give end users the wrong idea on a given set of memory. This threads purpose is to give members a place to go and compare memory results.

Where is the glue?!
 
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Super Nade

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Exactly what Sucka said.

We need Pi 32M as a minimum measure of DRAM stability :)

Dread, Dragon

Its guys like you who actually make or break a thread. If everybody were as enthusiastic as you folks, took the time to write up some detailed information, newbies would have absolutely no teething problems. For example, I was testing my new OCZ PC4200 Plats before I logged on. Its not easy to hit DDR600 straight off the bat. If only detailed information were available, I'd be sitting pretty right now :)

ATM, I'm using Sucka's guide to attain my goal. Watch for some TCC5 action by the weekend :)
 

RedDragonXXX

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Sorry guys I will post some 32MB SuperPI soon as I can since I'm running at 261MHz on this RAM right now because at 3.2V (which is required if I want to do 290MHz) these sticks get burning hot even while being active cooled with by 2x80mm/80cmf's each.
 
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Super Nade

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Mate,

You might want to ease up on that Voltage. If it gets hot with 2 x 80 mm fans, then you are pushing the envelope. Be careful. I'd like to encourage you to burn up the RAM and tell us about it, but I suppose that's not what you had in mind :D

Dread,

Sounds like you have a plan. :thup:
 

RedDragonXXX

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I have burned in (around 100hours of Blend and lost count for memtest) and tweaked this RAM as far as it can go and it still wont take anything but 3.2V to do 290MHz. These are one of the strangest TCC5's that I have seen around.

Why couldn't Corsair put their TCCD/TCC5's on BrainPower PCB's like everyone else :bang head
 
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Super Nade

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RedDragonXXX said:
I have burned in (around 100hours of Blend and lost count for memtest) and tweaked this RAM as far as it can go and it still wont take anything but 3.2V to do 290MHz. These are one of the strangest TCC5's that I have seen around.

Why couldn't Corsair put their TCCD/TCC5's on BrainPower PCB's like everyone else :bang head

Currently testing OCZ PC4200 Platinum (TCC5). Burning it in now. I cannot boot at 2.5-3-3-8-1T, 295MHz if VDRAM < 2.9V. I don't really care about the memtest errors now, as its still being burnt in.

It is cool to the touch with 2x 80mm fans blowing.
 

RedDragonXXX

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Super Nade said:
Currently testing OCZ PC4200 Platinum (TCC5). Burning it in now. I cannot boot at 2.5-3-3-8-1T, 295MHz if VDRAM < 2.9V. I don't really care about the memtest errors now, as its still being burnt in.

It is cool to the touch with 2x 80mm fans blowing.

Try relaxing RAS to CAS from 3 to 4 cause TCC5's love that stuff at high freq and you just might be able to pull it off with 2.9V but I doubt it. These chips take 3V like nothing so don't be surprized if it requires more than that.

Also be sure to try Drive Strength at 8 cause I get better stable settings with that unlike with 7.
 

RedDragonXXX

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P.S. I will add more results to my RAM soon as my new PSU gets here since I sold my Modstream couple of days ago and now I'm using a crappy Orion 430W with only 16A on a 12V Rail so I was forced to take out some of my 12V fans in order to keep the rail stable and among them were my dual 80mm that cooled the RAM.
 

RedDragonXXX

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Hey just to let you know guys I made a DFI NF4 BIOS Vault since most of you are using DFI NF4 boards. So you can get the latest BIOS or some of the others as well righ here!
 

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After more insight Im editing this......


Motherboard : Abit IC7-G MaxIII
Processor :p4 2.4c Northwood
DRAM : OCZ EL DDR PC-3200 Dual Channel Gold, Winbond BH-5
Model#: OCZ4001024ELDCGE-K

Need a mobo that allows higher ddr voltage, Im maxed at 2.8v right now. Need 3.1v

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_el_ddr_pc_3200_dual_channel_gold

Do not try and boot with 2-2-2-5 timings unless u have the DDR voltage set at 2.8v.

Stable at 2 2 2 5 timeings @3.0Ghz , Its stable up too 3.2 just not in 3D Inviroment (Games) Ram needs more juice.

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Son1990

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If I didnt burn one of my sticks I would have had my settings up by now hehehehe.

Concider this spot saved for me ;)

~Ken