Intro: (you can skip it)
First post of the thread, this is probably gonna be modified a few times...
For the one that really want to push their machines to their quantum(?)limit, supercooling is almost unavoidable. But when we talk about supercooling, we are usually referring to CPU supercooling. Many path lead to what I would call Global Cooling: Submersed cooling [1] (give a long term bath to all the electronic part, in a non-conductive refrigerated liquid)[/1], Canadian-Russian-Swedish cooling [1] (put the case outside or duct so outdoor air in the PC)(do Mac users overclock?)[/1] , Separated specific cooling [1] (strap peltiers and waterblocks on almost anything that's dark and has pin on it)[/1] to name a few.
The method I'll be considering here is simply Motherboard refrigeration. I know that a few of us are fantasizing about this. But in this thread, we will manage to develop an efficient (and cost effective)(and safe[4] ?[/4] )way to implement the latter.
Real post:
Basic idea:
To put the Motherboard in a freezer so everything from Agp to the Uart (CPU and Ram included)[2](I found nothing with Z)[/2] is cooled below zero. Then you can use whatever noisy fan you want, since it's noise insulated too.
Step 1:[1](anywhere you see *, I have some unanswered question about it)[/1]You buy a used freezer, or fridge [2](that you would also "overclock" to make it a freezer --you see it's all about OCing)[/2]. This should not cost you over 125$ (canadian). Manage to know it's lowest temperature [1]I would aim at -10C and less[/1]and the amount of heat it can pump (You need it to pump more at least 175 W for a TBird Mobo)(I think that it can pump about 4 times more watt than they use (say:a 50 watts fridge would pump 200 W).
Step2: Put some masking tape on any socket, slot, blabla. Put a few layers of water resistant Lacquer on it (*,*,*). This would greatly reduce the condensation related dangers.
Step3: Fit, anyhow you want, the motherboard in the freezer. You will make a hole, in the freezer's wall, for the Cables. Foam the hole with some canned foam (yes, it's permanent)Beware, you want it to be sealed, so no humid air would enter.
Annexes: The ATX case will be used to host the PSU, the drives and external ports if you want.
You'll probably need a HSF only on the CPU, now you can use the loudest most scary 50dbA fan you dream of (the fan is still important since you still want your CPU to get as close as possible from the freezer's air temp. I have some plan for adapting a 120mm fan with a cone shaped duct that will rush all it's air on the heatsink.
Even though you waterproofed the Mobo, you may not appreciate the presence of a two inches thick frost coating on it, so, even if the freezer is frost free, you will avoid opening it. This means that you'll need a JUMPERLESS MOBO (or at least try not to play too much with the jumpers).
My vision of condensation:
Condensation (or frost) on CPU is extremely unlikely, since it's temp will be well above the freezer's air. The humidity will be prone to run toward the colder freezer's wall (or it's "cold" sink). The MoBo and the RAM will also be somewhat warmer, so it will be more or less protected.
Questions I ask to myself:
-What is the max allowable length of EIDE cable.
-Is there any danger apply Lacquer (or any other sealant) on the Mobo.(you know, solvents and blabla.)
Will a small 4 Cubic foot is powerful enough to cool a beast like a 2.2 volt TBird 1.1Ghz@1,6Ghz ( that can be something like 75 watt)
I'm personally planning to use :
-Global cooling device
-TBird 900 or 950
-MSI Turbo-R
-TNT2 32 Meg (I'm into sound, not games)
-768 Mb PC-133
-(on-board sound card) (till I can afford a real one, not an SBLive)
-Alpha's HS with any very powerful, noisy fan
First post of the thread, this is probably gonna be modified a few times...
For the one that really want to push their machines to their quantum(?)limit, supercooling is almost unavoidable. But when we talk about supercooling, we are usually referring to CPU supercooling. Many path lead to what I would call Global Cooling: Submersed cooling [1] (give a long term bath to all the electronic part, in a non-conductive refrigerated liquid)[/1], Canadian-Russian-Swedish cooling [1] (put the case outside or duct so outdoor air in the PC)(do Mac users overclock?)[/1] , Separated specific cooling [1] (strap peltiers and waterblocks on almost anything that's dark and has pin on it)[/1] to name a few.
The method I'll be considering here is simply Motherboard refrigeration. I know that a few of us are fantasizing about this. But in this thread, we will manage to develop an efficient (and cost effective)(and safe[4] ?[/4] )way to implement the latter.
Real post:
Basic idea:
To put the Motherboard in a freezer so everything from Agp to the Uart (CPU and Ram included)[2](I found nothing with Z)[/2] is cooled below zero. Then you can use whatever noisy fan you want, since it's noise insulated too.
Step 1:[1](anywhere you see *, I have some unanswered question about it)[/1]You buy a used freezer, or fridge [2](that you would also "overclock" to make it a freezer --you see it's all about OCing)[/2]. This should not cost you over 125$ (canadian). Manage to know it's lowest temperature [1]I would aim at -10C and less[/1]and the amount of heat it can pump (You need it to pump more at least 175 W for a TBird Mobo)(I think that it can pump about 4 times more watt than they use (say:a 50 watts fridge would pump 200 W).
Step2: Put some masking tape on any socket, slot, blabla. Put a few layers of water resistant Lacquer on it (*,*,*). This would greatly reduce the condensation related dangers.
Step3: Fit, anyhow you want, the motherboard in the freezer. You will make a hole, in the freezer's wall, for the Cables. Foam the hole with some canned foam (yes, it's permanent)Beware, you want it to be sealed, so no humid air would enter.
Annexes: The ATX case will be used to host the PSU, the drives and external ports if you want.
You'll probably need a HSF only on the CPU, now you can use the loudest most scary 50dbA fan you dream of (the fan is still important since you still want your CPU to get as close as possible from the freezer's air temp. I have some plan for adapting a 120mm fan with a cone shaped duct that will rush all it's air on the heatsink.
Even though you waterproofed the Mobo, you may not appreciate the presence of a two inches thick frost coating on it, so, even if the freezer is frost free, you will avoid opening it. This means that you'll need a JUMPERLESS MOBO (or at least try not to play too much with the jumpers).
My vision of condensation:
Condensation (or frost) on CPU is extremely unlikely, since it's temp will be well above the freezer's air. The humidity will be prone to run toward the colder freezer's wall (or it's "cold" sink). The MoBo and the RAM will also be somewhat warmer, so it will be more or less protected.
Questions I ask to myself:
-What is the max allowable length of EIDE cable.
-Is there any danger apply Lacquer (or any other sealant) on the Mobo.(you know, solvents and blabla.)
Will a small 4 Cubic foot is powerful enough to cool a beast like a 2.2 volt TBird 1.1Ghz@1,6Ghz ( that can be something like 75 watt)
I'm personally planning to use :
-Global cooling device
-TBird 900 or 950
-MSI Turbo-R
-TNT2 32 Meg (I'm into sound, not games)
-768 Mb PC-133
-(on-board sound card) (till I can afford a real one, not an SBLive)
-Alpha's HS with any very powerful, noisy fan
