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EluSiOn

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hs_coolance_immersion.jpg


Koolance, specialized in watercoolers, showed their cases with integrated watercooler. While these are nice, they were already available before CeBIT, and lots of info about them can already be found on the net. To attract attention to their stand, they displayed a really cool experiment: an "immersion" cooled PC, where all components are in a "fishtank" filled with a liquid that is electrically nonconductive, but has a high thermal conductivity.

from http://www.heatsink-guide.com/cebit02/cebit02-3.html
 

kevin_bouchard

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not quite sure what type of liquid they are using but mineral oil works great and lots of people have used it in the past, just make sure you dont put moving parts into the liquid.
 

bongo

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I smell a Koolance advertising ploy. There just trying to impress people with eyecandy and pointless displays on how "smart" they are. Common fellas wake up. I know it looks cool and all, but I know I saw my share of submerged motherboards(mineral oil) already...

Koolance is starting to loose its grasp with "pseodo g33ks" to comapnies such as Swiftech and all the small online watercooling shops. They just cant compete performance wise, so they try and brain wash "p-g33k" with submerged pc's.
Bottom line is Koolance always made crappy watercooling kits and doesn't seem to be in a hurry to change that.

Just my $0.02;)
 

JFettig

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actually this is really old, and if you look at the board, its an old AT board with some old cpu..... woo yay..............
 

cack01

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I'm pretty sure Koolance did the same thing last year, eighter way, someone did it last year so its not new. If I remember correctly, 3M sells the liquid but its not exactly commercially avaliable.
 

natopotato

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i dont understand how having it sit in water is gona do realy great cooling... dont u need somthing to cool the water?
 

Diggrr

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Well, it's the same motherboard that they used last year (Masked is right about it's age), but the power supply looks to have been changed.

And that heatsink isn't a Hammer one, it's just an old garden variety blue anodized one for P2's. Also the same as last year's.

You can tell they're getting cheaper and cheaper with that display though, the fluid level is much lower than before....maybe it's evaporating away, making it really not worth it's expense in the first place. It's a bear to seal all those cords and slots to stop evaporation.

Nato, it's clear, non-conductive fluid...far from being water. Since the base of that case is 6" tall, I'd say it's being cooled underneath it all.
 

ziah

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heres some online sellers of fluorinert (fc-72 and its big name perfluorohexane (C6F14)there is also about a dozen other types of fc-?? coolant and then there is novec coolants). its available. you just have to really look hard. plus no one really knows how much you need. is too much a bad thing? does it have deadly fumes (having inert in the name probably means no)? does it evaporate? does it taste good with pasta? i even heard if burnt by a processor it turns into mustard gas but i think thats bs! so many questions...

buy some....

http://www.interchim.com/interchim/chemical/fluore/23558-F.htm

http://www.marketsgl.com/bus/bid_item.php?itemid=1342



manufacturer

the price is for weight. how much does it weight per volume though. ive been searching for white papers and have come up with little. some hard core chemistry type stuff but i dont know how to translate. im sure these guys can help...

http://www.enme.umd.edu/~kimjh/

and its right down the street!! maybe i can sneak some out after i grill them.

it may be worth the high cost.

a nice article...

http://www.electronics-cooling.com/Resources/EC_Articles/MAY96/may96_04.htm

and i know where you can get 165 gallons of fluorinet...

http://www.scd.ucar.edu/news/00/features/0414.antero/

how would you like to fold with that thing?

oh another site had this article....

part 1 part 2


~z
 

ziah

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ok after more reading.. i think it just may be some pretty safe stuff. it seems it was invented and used as a blood plazma substitute used durring surgery!! 3m noticed it had some amazing heat transfer properties and pushed it as a coolant under the name fluorinert.
 

Paxmax

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mfpmax said:
I think I'll stick to Octools nice article on submersion instead...

LOL! I can still remember the tummy ache I got from reading that article! When it reached some -70C it turned into jelly instead of fluid. LOL!!! :p The pump totally clogged.

And they also froze the bios... the darn supercold bios started speaking greek.. sortof... LOL!!
That was a hilarious read, and also very useful, now you know what happens when you push the envelope with some components.

/Paxmax :beer: