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Thermal Margin..CPU temp confusion

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BorrowedMender

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Hi all, I have an AMD A10-6700 not over clocked. I noticed a few days ago the fans seemed to be a little noisier than usual. Having had a computer in the past with CPU overheating problems I decided to install HWMonitor. I nearly fell off my chair when I saw my temperature regularly hitting 100C.
I replaced the thermal paste as I had some lying around and this seemed to help 'a little' but my temps were still way high. Then I heard that HWMonitor may not be that great with AMD and I needed AMD Overdrive.
This is where my confusion begins. My thermal margin temp in OD is very similar to the temp shown in HWM. Surly this can't be correct.:-/
I've added a screen grab of both programs running side by side with the PC idle.
Any input would be much appreciated.

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ATMINSIDE

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Can you provide details about your case and fan setup?
Maybe even a picture?
 
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BorrowedMender

BorrowedMender

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Can you provide details about your case and fan setup?
Maybe even a picture?
Its an off the shelf ASUS M32BF-US001S. The fan set up....what fan set up :rofl: when I cranked open the case I found no fans except the CPU. I have two winging there way to me, hopefully be here today. But I still don't understand the figures between HWMonitor and AMD Overdrive. Shouldn't they be drastically different?

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Have you determined that you have the latest version of Overdrive?
I think so, it was downloaded from their site yesterday so I'm assuming it is.

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For a moment I thought, which IPA and why beer?

yeah, that's here as well to calm me down :clap:
 

ATMINSIDE

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I would just use HWMonitor, honestly. Do the temps drop if you have the side panel off with a house fan blowing into the side?
 
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BorrowedMender

BorrowedMender

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I don't have a house fan believe it or not, it doesn't get that hot in Manchester :D I'm going to install a couple of fans as soon as they arrive and i'll report back. Last time I had this issue with a previous PC it was constantly shutting down with the overheating error message on restart. This one hasn't done that...yet.
 
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BorrowedMender

BorrowedMender

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It's just the stock cooler that came with the pc. The fans came today, I'm going to install them later but don't hold out much hope. I'm leaning toward getting a new cooler, possibly the cooler master hyper 212 evo due to my budget.
 
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BorrowedMender

BorrowedMender

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So, as I suspected adding fans to the case made little difference. Looks like I need to upgrade the stock cooler. Why do they put such poor quality components in systems. Its not like a half decent cooler cost THAT much more.
Learned my lesson, going to build my own pc next time :D
 

exadeuce

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So, as I suspected adding fans to the case made little difference. Looks like I need to upgrade the stock cooler. Why do they put such poor quality components in systems. Its not like a half decent cooler cost THAT much more.
Learned my lesson, going to build my own pc next time :D

Stock coolers are designed to be as cheap as humanly possible while still letting your CPU limp along at stock settings for about three years. Even on a system you don't intend to overclock/can't overclock, people should upgrade coolers.

Although that hyper212 is a freaking pain to install.