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Yea. With those exact settings, i run 3.6GHz, stable on p95 for oever 24 hours. Same with memtest.
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Thermalright Ultima 90 **pics*temps**
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Yea. With those exact settings, i run 3.6GHz, stable on p95 for oever 24 hours. Same with memtest.
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every machine and peice of hardware is different, you can try metallicas settings but it really doesnt mean it will work for you just because it works for him, i dont even have a 1333 fsb chip I have the 1066 conroe and I dont need any volts anywhere on the mobo to run 400x9.
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I just know when i was running that low of NB voltage, i could get anything over 3.4 stable.
I bet thats the problem
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I think I'm going to try 3.6 tommorow, see what temps I get. Since Im at 1.418 right now, I'll probably go to 1.47 and see what temps I get. Hope I don't have to raise any other voltages 
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I know but i dont even have a 1333 chip and I run 3.6 at stock volts on the mobo.
soooo it may not be, but it wont hurt
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You think that tall thermalright ultima 90 will fit in a 3u rackmount server case, with the right fan? I hate regular cases, and I plan on buying a q6600 and overclocking it. But Its lookin like the fans to do the uber cooling wont fit in this case, which means I'll have to use the stock fan and heatsink, which means I cant overclock. I think a standard case is a 4u. Yes, no, maybe so?
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I dont get it. Where are you going to mount a 4u case? Do you have a server rack in your closet at home? Or do you just sit it on the floor?
p.s. I still need to get my final stats up here.
Metallica, what is your ambient temp? 16C is only like 60F. Is your room cooler than 60F?
I posted a thread about double checking your CoreTemp / TAT temps:
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=532020
The first process in that post will at least let you know whether you should use 85C or 100C, but the fact is that the real Tjunction varies from chip to chip and won't necessarilly be either 85C or 100C. If you want something more accurate though I also have a procedure for determining your real temps (or at least much closer). For example, in my case I need to subtract about 7C from my TAT temps.
Rule of thumb - if your idle temp is below ambient temp, or even within a degree or two, it is probably wrong (and most certainly wrong if it is equal to or below it). Air cooling, or even water cooling (w/o a chiller, TEC, etc...) can not cool to ambient temp.
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=532020
The first process in that post will at least let you know whether you should use 85C or 100C, but the fact is that the real Tjunction varies from chip to chip and won't necessarilly be either 85C or 100C. If you want something more accurate though I also have a procedure for determining your real temps (or at least much closer). For example, in my case I need to subtract about 7C from my TAT temps.
Rule of thumb - if your idle temp is below ambient temp, or even within a degree or two, it is probably wrong (and most certainly wrong if it is equal to or below it). Air cooling, or even water cooling (w/o a chiller, TEC, etc...) can not cool to ambient temp.
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Dont let metallica fool you. He has his PC in the refrigerator.
Lol. Damn, now why didn't I think of that? Wouldn't care how my U120X worked then
(j/k). Seriously though, I know some people do keep their houses really cool, but below 16C would be pretty extreme . However, I do wish I could keep my room's temperature better maintained, but air flow in my house sorta' sucks and it is more trouble than it is worth to add in-vent fans. So in the summer it stays cold (good) and in the winter is boiling (bad). In the winter I just open the windows then - Thread Starter
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Lol. Damn, now why didn't I think of that? Wouldn't care how my U120X worked then
I'm not sure what my room temp is. But I have four temp probes in my case now. 1 on top of the heatsink, 1 hanging, and 1 at the top of the case. The other is on the HS base. All except the HS base usually read around 26C which is about 78 F. I'll guess and say my room temp is 75-78 F. My idle is 28-30C. I'll get some pics and more accurate temps up later.
Yah, that sounds pretty reasonable. Realistic idle temps will generally be 2C to 5C over the temperature of the air going into the heatsink fan, and unless you've got air flowing directly into that fan from outside the case, that will usually be around 1C to 2C over the ambient temp. So it sounds like you're right in that range.
I wish Intel designed the chips so that Tjunction could be read from a processor register
The temps are meaningless without knowing Tjunction. It's like having a really nice thermometer w/ only one mark on it, and telling everyone, "my temperature is 50C below the mark", with no idea what temperature the mark is. Meanwhile somebody else comes along and starts telling everyone the mark is either 85C or 100C, when the real mark may be somewhere in between, above, or below those two numbers.
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Yah, that sounds pretty reasonable. Realistic idle temps will generally be 2C to 5C over the temperature of the air going into the heatsink fan, and unless you've got air flowing directly into that fan from outside the case, that will usually be around 1C to 2C over the ambient temp. So it sounds like you're right in that range.
I wish Intel designed the chips so that Tjunction could be read from a processor register
Ok so according to core temps website:
"Intel defines a certain Tjunction temperature for the processor. In the case of Yonah it is 85C° or 100C°. First of all the program reads from a Model Specific Register (or MSR), and detects the Tjunction temperature. "
but you say thats not the case... so who is right and who is wrong?
There have been numerous posts in the past about various versions of CoreTemp choosing the wrong Tjunction. According to Intel's own documentation:
"The temperature at which Thermal Monitor activates the thermal control circuit is not user configurable and is not software visible"
And...
"The relative temperature value reported over PECI represents the delta below the onset of thermal control circuit (TCC) activation as indicated by PROCHOT# assertions"
See their thermal and mechanical guidelines:
http://download.intel.com/design/processor/designex/31780405.pdf
http://www.intel.com/design/core2duo/documentation.htm
As far as I know, CoreTemp reads the processor model and stepping then chooses the Tjunction based on it (rather than "detecting" it).
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That's what I have the vCore running at right now. Using stock HSF my temps are 32/58 idle/load @ 375x8 (3.0 ghz). Does a non-throttling voltage reduce the power-saving features (c1e, eist) by much? I noticed temps are the same using stock vCore or setting voltages.
My goal is have the best of both worlds - overclocking to 3.4-3.6 with a good cooler, and still saving power with speed-step.
