I recently read the review of the ThermoEngine at http://www.hardocp.com/reviews/cooling/themosonic/v604210/ it says that the TIM included on the heatsink worked as good as the thermal grease they use. I bought the ThermoEngine and I'm still waiting for it to arrive. If anyone has a ThermoEngine, please let me know what you think about the TIM, or if I should just buy some thermal grease; thanks.
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ThermoEngine TIM as good as they say?
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The ThermoEngine review you link to has a problem.. The review was done with the 'hollow core' ThermoEngine and not the new 'solid core' ThermoEngine which is the version currently available, this review also warns that the new ThermoEngine will give you from 4 to 10 degrees worse temperatures than the original... while I can not state if this situation is true or not.. I would consider this.. If ThermoEngine can change the heatsink design obviously the TIM may change as well. With this information in mind I would choose Artic Silver as it is a known quantity rather than hoping you get the better performing heatsink and TIM from the supplier.
The ThermoEngine review you link to has a problem.. The review was done with the 'hollow core' ThermoEngine and not the new 'solid core' ThermoEngine which is the version currently available, this review also warns that the new ThermoEngine will give you from 4 to 10 degrees worse temperatures than the original... while I can not state if this situation is true or not.. I would consider this.. If ThermoEngine can change the heatsink design obviously the TIM may change as well. With this information in mind I would choose Artic Silver as it is a known quantity rather than hoping you get the better performing heatsink and TIM from the supplier.
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You are wrong there, the solid core is the same within 1 degree as the hollow core.
I have a thermoengine and with my set up (twin deltas) i get 34-36 C under load dependant on room temp. I removed the TIM and used artic silver II, it's the best out there.
I have a thermoengine and with my set up (twin deltas) i get 34-36 C under load dependant on room temp. I removed the TIM and used artic silver II, it's the best out there.
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I've had a ThermoEngine for about 5 months now and have been using Arctic Silver with the Delta fan and have no complaints. Maxes out at about 38C under load.
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I personally have no experience of this heatsink and was using information from the review URL posted by Capn, I did however believe that a 4 to 10 degrees temprature difference was a bit excessive which is why I pointed out that it was the review which stated this and not myself. But Im glad your having great results from it.
I am happy to be corrected as it allows me to offer better advice in the future, does anyone else have information on this heatsink ?
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I saw the comparison between the 2 versions at [H]ardOCP (see link) and another place which I can't remember the name of (they bolted them to a 50W resistor, same result though)
http://www.hardocp.com/reviews/cooling/themosonic/v604210/comparo.html
http://www.hardocp.com/reviews/cooling/themosonic/v604210/comparo.html
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I've had real good results with my ThermoEngine with the supplied phase change thermo pad. I' think the reason some people are not realizing the performance they were hoping for is that alot of places are selling the Heatsink with the puny 60X10 mm 16CFM fan on it . I had good results with the YS-Tech 27.5 CFM off my FOP-32 then I got the 34CFM fan that was supposed to come with it from 3dfxcool (free of charge) and got even better results. As I write this my temp is 28C and It never exceeds 42C under load the System temp is 22.8C and my computer room is about 72F I have yet to feel the need to remove the HSF and apply ASII although if for any reason I have the HSF off in the future I'll clean off the residue from the TIM and put a thin layer of ASII on just to see if there is a further temp reduction. For the price I think this is one of the best out there right now.
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But there is plenty of evidence on the web that says they are practically identical in performance.
The place whose url I can't remember used a 50 Watt precision resistor with a copper hot plate and all the temps were measured with a digital themometer +/- 0.1 C. Each sink had a delta 38 cfm fan, was fitted to the resistor using arctic silver and left for 1 hour before temps were taken. They found under 1 C difference between the two sinks.
I guess its up to you who you belive on the web, but I think the above site proved it for me.
The place whose url I can't remember used a 50 Watt precision resistor with a copper hot plate and all the temps were measured with a digital themometer +/- 0.1 C. Each sink had a delta 38 cfm fan, was fitted to the resistor using arctic silver and left for 1 hour before temps were taken. They found under 1 C difference between the two sinks.
I guess its up to you who you belive on the web, but I think the above site proved it for me.
Back to the question at hand, here is a direct comparison between the ThermoEngine TIM and Arctic Silver II.
Nevin
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Nevin (Jun 12, 2001 10:35 a.m.):
Back to the question at hand, here is a direct comparison between the ThermoEngine TIM and Arctic Silver II.
Nevin
To add to the above. Expect the TIM that comes with the HSF to perform even worse when subjected to an Athlon running at 1.4 GHz rather than a piddly Celermine.
