Time to step it up!

[KetoSoi]

Heya Everyone,

Been a while since I posted, though I read frequently. Been using the system in my sig' for several years now, and its been rock solid. Really cant go wrong with the Saber Kitty line, quite the work-horse. Looking at getting a Ryzen 9 5950X, seems to be a pretty good bang for the buck, and should leave the old 8350 in the dust.

Been looking at the Asus line of mobo's, though I find their current line-up a bit confusing. Will be doing some overclocking, but wouldnt call it 'extreme' by any stretch, just looking to squeeze more performance out of it, and maintain solid stability/reliability as I did with my current system.

Any suggestions on which current Asus mobo might be a 'natural successor' (in spirit at least) to the Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 that will handle the current Ryzen CPU line? Any other manufacturers boards worth a look?

Once I get that sorted, I can track down decent RAM, and a newer vid card in time. Will be using everything else as indicated in my sig for the most part.

Thanks for any suggestions, ideas, or misc commentary

K

 

[unsafesteagle]

ASUS has a couple premium names Strix and Crosshair are still around
UEFI Bios is different to navigate than AM3+

Thats my bit

 

[Zerileous]

While you can overclock the Ryzen line, most people don't. To better understand how these CPUs work and manage their power usage and clock speed, I recommend reading this.

Do you have or anticipate a need for 16 cores? What will your primary use be? AMD has a newer socket and faster CPUs with AM5 and the 7000 series. AMD offers some X3D CPUs that have additional cache bonded directly to the die in layers, this impacts the ability to overclock but can greatly improve performance in some games.

As far as motherboards go, VRMs are not a huge deal for most AMD boards these days unless you're looking to go wild (but as for going wild on 12 or 16 cores, it takes A LOT of cooling). It is more important to focus on features, almost all storage is nVME/m.2 now, the board should still have SATA ports, but looking at IO, number of m.2 slots, things like USBC headers are all features to look for.

 

[KetoSoi]

Thanks guys. If overclocking is not as prevalent on the current lines of CPU's, I dont 'need' to do it . I'm doing a lot of video encoding these days, and almost any of them would be a step up from a FX-8350 in the cases where I am not using Nvidia accelerated transcoding. So 16 cores, definitely a good thing. I believe my cooling system will work well, worst case I get a different water-block if needed, but I havent researched that far yet. Choosing a tough, reliable, work-horse of a mobo is pretty critical.

 

[freeagent]

Overclocking is the bestestest for the performances

Sorry, its for another team... been awhile since I ran Rosetta.. cuts into F@H by about 2-2.5M PPD.. hm.

On the plus side the PSU is spitting out some warm air

 

[Woomack]

New AMD CPUs will probably be released in the upcoming 3 weeks, so I would wait. At least CPUs should be fine and expected to perform ~15% faster than the current generation. It's hard to say what about motherboards, as all early motherboard releases have some problems with compatibility.

 

[Flamethrower1972]

I like what you F@H is doing lots of PPD.

 

[Zerileous]

Thanks guys. If overclocking is not as prevalent on the current lines of CPU's, I dont 'need' to do it . I'm doing a lot of video encoding these days, and almost any of them would be a step up from a FX-8350 in the cases where I am not using Nvidia accelerated transcoding. So 16 cores, definitely a good thing. I believe my cooling system will work well, worst case I get a different water-block if needed, but I havent researched that far yet. Choosing a tough, reliable, work-horse of a mobo is pretty critical.

A custom loop should be fine as long as you're prepared to dissapare 200w+. I should have been a bit more specific as most boards are fine for gaming, but if you're going to be working all 16 cores then you'll need to be more discerning. You will possibly need a new block for AM5, the holes are the same as AM4 (and AM3? I don't remember), but the height of the IHS is different. Some coolers mount fine but many don't.

The 9000 series was just announced as woomack mentioned, so that would be the 9950x. There will be new chipsets as well. With past generations, the b series boards were pretty robust and they also had an E tacked on to some chipsets that had additional high speed nVME support. Storage speed is worth paying attention to if you're moving large video files around, while NVMe running at PCIe gen 3 (or even SATA) is sufficient for most gaming / office use.

 

[KetoSoi]

Thanks Guys I'll hang loose a bit, and see what happens in a few weeks when AMD releases the new stuff.

It'll give me some more time to research the cooling aspect. I'll continue using my Swiftech MCR-220 Drive R3 with 2 Akasa Viper fans, its been able to toss off a lot of heat in my current config when I first started testing with it way back. I'm confident the radiator/pump and fans will work well with the new stuff. The wildcard is the XSPC RayStorm Waterblock, will have to find out IF/how it works with current CPU's.

Much appreciated everyone

K

 

[MaddMutt]

I don’t know about the XSPC RayStorm Waterblock (since the AM3+ days) but EKWB has a good CPU block -> The Velocity. The Intel version runs all Socket 115x, 1200, 1700, + the HEDT boards. Then you can grab the AM4 adapter for $19.95 that works all AM3(+), AM4, & AM5. -> OPPS that block is no longer sold From the EKWB web site they now have a Velocity Ver 2 that’s 2x more $$ but looks like crap.
On the Motherboard - Asus does not have a Saber Kitty under the AM4/5 socket. Their TUF Branding has taken that slot. The AM4 boards are plentiful and cheap. There are the x370/x470/x570 chipsets to choose from BUT the x370 is limited on newer CPUs. IIRC the x470 board is a jack-of-all-trades as it supports the Zen <-> Zen 4 CPUs.
It all depends on how much you wish to spend AS you will NEED NEW -> MB + CPU + Mem which could = $1200+ for AM5/7950x setup.

 

[KetoSoi]

I've narrowed it down a bit, looks like the TUF GAMING B650-PLUS and TUF GAMING X670E are the best overall fit for what I am looking for. Just have to figure out if the X670E is worth the extra expense. Both have all the slots I would need, so its a wash there. The 670 has a more robust VRM setup though.... hmmm.

Looking at waterblocks, my gawd there all kind of stuff out there these days. I just need a decent hunk of copper, no acrylic or LED nonsense. It aint gotta be pretty, just has to work well.

 

[insistinglixi]

all the best

 

[KetoSoi]

Anyone have and opinon/advice on these 2 boards and/or chipsets? Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS and TUF GAMING X670E...

K

 

[EarthDog]

I thought you were waiting...

...regardless, those are both solid budget boards. X670E is going to give you more of everything, though. They'll do fine paired with a 5000/7000 series (the latter prefered) CPU.

 

[KetoSoi]

I thought you were waiting...

...regardless, those are both solid budget boards. X670E is going to give you more of everything, though. They'll do fine paired with a 5000/7000 series (the latter prefered) CPU.

Heh, I am waiting to purchase anything. However, the research continues in the interim

Thanks ED

K

 

[MaddMutt]

I would go with the x670e. It has 2x PCIe 5.0 slots for future upgrades

 

[KetoSoi]

Geez, I got my wires crossed along the way somewhere. I've been looking at am5 boards. and spaced-out on the fact that the 5950x is am4.

Fortunately there's a good field for am4 if I don't find the upcoming offerings to my $$$ liking. Asus has a TUF x570

Ordered an Alphacool Core 1 no-bling edition from Amazon, as it'll work well on any current cpu/mobo. Hard to go wrong for $110.

Now if amd would release the new stuff...

 

[Woomack]

Ordered an Alphacool Core 1 no-bling edition from Amazon, as it'll work well on any current cpu/mobo. Hard to go wrong for $110.

I guess it's too late to tell you that in 2 weeks will be released a "lite" version of Core 1 - the same base, different top, but probably ~30% cheaper (depending on the version). I was talking with the Alphacool rep yesterday about new products.

 

[KetoSoi]

I guess it's too late to tell you that in 2 weeks will be released a "lite" version of Core 1 - the same base, different top, but probably ~30% cheaper (depending on the version). I was talking with the Alphacool rep yesterday about new products.

I'm guessing it will have an acetal/pom top, of which I am not a fan, so I wouldn't have bought it anyways

 

[Woomack]

There was no word about an embargo, so here is one picture of both versions. I guess the solid metal one will still be better. I like Pom/acetal, but I dislike Acryl or any other transparent tops as they crack in time or under higher pressure from fittings.