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JoeCrappa said:
ahh...the joy of high powered electronics and water. so, you'd still hear noise from the HD and CDROM? If you're gonna quiet those down, i'd love to hear how you'd do it!

I cheated. As part of the cost of silencing my system I bought a 60GB Barracuda which is a very quiet drive. Even when it's the only thing running I can barely hear it. When there is just one or two quiet fans then I can't hear it at all. As for the CD drive I did nothing. It really doesn't run enough for me to worrry about it. The biggest thing was to kill the constant whining from fans and HD. The IBM that I had before was anything but silent.
 
If you're looking for a TOTALLY silent computer, "think outside the box." literally. For me I can accomplish this quite easily, I just turn my stereo system up and VOILA, no computer noise. However, if you're going to be serious about this, look to the car manufacturers. Believe it or not they have made completely silent cars. The trick is not to eliminate the noise producers, it's to eliminate the sound waves.

I wish I could remember all the physics behind it, but I can give you the basics. Sound travels in waves. You only hear the sound at the peaks of the sound wave. Either called nodes or antinodes, I don't remember. The trick to silence is a computer controlled machine that produces a sound that creates the exact opposite sound wave. When the two collide they cancel each other out, the peaks become flat (or very close to it) and therefore you hear no sound.

This idea was scrapped by car companies for safety reasons (imagine not being able to hear an oncoming car's horn, rumble strips, weird engine noises etc...) but it is used in other industries where noise is a factor. Large machining companies have used them to elimnate danger to workers' ears and for an all around better work environment. While these are large scale machines a smaller scale most likely exists. Take for example the automobile industry. These things can't be TOO expensive, car manufacturers don't put things in that cost them too much money, and space in a car is somewhat limited, which means they can't be huge. I'll look around and see what I can find about such a machine.
 
Spartacus51 said:

I wish I could remember all the physics behind it, but I can give you the basics. Sound travels in waves. You only hear the sound at the peaks of the sound wave. Either called nodes or antinodes, I don't remember. The trick to silence is a computer controlled machine that produces a sound that creates the exact opposite sound wave. When the two collide they cancel each other out, the peaks become flat (or very close to it) and therefore you hear no sound.

It is usually referred to as active sound or active noise cancellation. I've heard of it being used with car mufflers although like you said they pretty much abandoned it. This is usually achieved with noise cancellation headphones and it is used by pilots of all sort and frequent flyers. It's also used in many telephones. I looked into this and came up with little in the way of noise cancellation devices for a home pc or for any small device. It would be nice to find something like this that was truly effective at reducing noise without the use of headphones. or without the use of a machine the size of a small car.
 
Hmmm, a bit off the topic, but for those of you writing papers you find slightly dull, check out this page

http://www.csi.uottawa.ca/~bouchard/publis_e.html

about sound reduction... just read the titles of the papers... probably put you to sleep.

“Numerically stable fast convergence least-squares algorithms for multichannel active sound cancellation systems and sound deconvolution systems”

and that's just the first paper. This guy's got longer titles to his papers than I've got whole papers.
 
$250 That's about how much I spent.

Seagate Barracuda IV - awesome!
LG CDRW - can barely hear tray open.
Enermax 350 Whisper PSU - dual fan & quiet.
Zalman Fan Mate 1 - drops the rpms on my P4 1.6a stock cooler.
Enermax Variable 80mm exhaust fan - cheaper than Papst.

All the above equals (i guess) around 25 db.
20 db is a whisper and I am just above that. Only thing I hear is the electons flowing.
 
Well this is my solution to noisy hard disks :

HDCooler.jpg


The disks are basically strapped to a big water-block which keeps them cool. They're then sealed inside aperspex box which is lined with "Magic fleece". Even with my ludicrously loud Barracuda III, it's still very quiet.

I'd really love to get one of the new baracuda IV's - then my system would be REALLY quiet :)
 
ln isnt noise by its self

it just gets noisy when people are screaming oh my god were almost out again we have to poor more in

or screaming oh my god i just froze my feet to the floor and my toes shatered
 
Well, It turns out that total silent is hard to do but near silent is easy to do. My no fan version pic attached here work if I don't OC and ambient at or below 22C. My current computer with one single fan is near silent with the seagate HD as suggested by others
 
my dells are nearly silent, the ibm harddrives that come with them are inaudible, psu doesnt make any noise, and over the ceiling fan in my room, i can BARELY hear the fan on the back....one good thing about dells....too bad they are hella expensive
 
That is because Dell computer has active temp control fans and a whole lot more designs around quiet computer, but I would never buy Dell b/c I can not mug with it ;) But then again I bet my comp is more silent than a Dell
 
There's only one word you need to know to make a quiet computer. Cyrix

Other things that help
Seagate hard drive, and a small (cyrix style) PSU.
 
yeah I bet. My gateway comp is cyrix. it is quiet (only PS fan) except that noisy maxtor drive. May be I will place it in a wood box ;)
 
You couldn't pay me to have a quiet computer! I turned off the machine in my sig(low on water), and without the white noise my apartment was so loud I couldn't sleep all night. It stays on at night now, I got a window fan that I can use to drown out noise now too. I never thought my computer would be the lesser of 2 (noise) evils.
 
you made me remember those days in college. I had to sleep in school b/c I had no money for rent. Talk about white noise and light, I woke up at least 5 times each nite. ;) I'm so glad those days are over for me.
 
If you have like 500 dollars, you should seal your case, attach a massive heatsink to your proc, and fill your box with dielectric oil. you would need a radiator and pump, but otherwise there would be no noise. you should proably put the return from the radiator on the cpu heatsink and the out to the pump through the ps. If you are really crazy about overclocking, use a waterblock on the proc separatly with a separaqte water loop (it cools better than oil). Use a full size car radiator to cool it so you dont need a fan, or do as i plan to do, and bury about 100 feet of copper tubing and use that to cool the water - The thermal capacity of earth is MASSIVE
 
You could probably build a soundproof cabinet with $500, then vent from the next room.

Then attach a hundred Comairs just for fun.
 
Overdoze, I saw your picture above of your water cooled power supply. I just had to say how impressed I am with what you did. Good job!

The heat sink used with many power transistors is frequently not grounded but is actually the emitter (I think). You may have to use electrcally isolated blocks for each transistor. Another alternative might be to use a wax thermal strip. This might maintain electrical isolation to the water block for each transistor.
 
RhoXS, you are right. I did measure and make sure it was not conducted after the glue. But the live voltage was too strong and it knock thru my arctic epoxy (epoxy are not conducted) when I power on. Anyway, I have a different and much easier solution now here
 
Spartacus51 said:
Hmmm, a bit off the topic, but for those of you writing papers you find slightly dull, check out this page

http://www.csi.uottawa.ca/~bouchard/publis_e.html

about sound reduction... just read the titles of the papers... probably put you to sleep.

“Numerically stable fast convergence least-squares algorithms for multichannel active sound cancellation systems and sound deconvolution systems”

and that's just the first paper. This guy's got longer titles to his papers than I've got whole papers.

Amazingly enough I just got my acceptance to that university! :)
 
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