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Furious911

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Sep 11, 2005
Hey fellas, I bought this setup about almost 2 years ago and you helped me set it up then (see hehe http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=411587)
and now I'm starting to get some pretty bad FPS in games and I don't have the ability to go all new yet, in fact i bought a house and a new car this year so money is indeed tight, my question is does anyone know what I can max out my CPU to on this particular mobo, my system is extremely rock solid and I have a Geforce 7800 GS OC which I love but like I said my FPS had been suffering and I wanna see if I can put a "band aid" on this problem for awhile.

This is what SiS Sandra says my motherboard is: (Sorry for the spam I dont know exactly what is relevant)

SiSoftware Sandra

Mainboard
Manufacturer : Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : 1 Processor(s)
MPS Version : 1.40
Model : nVidia-nForce2
System BIOS : 03/29/2005-nVidia-nForce-6A61BG0QC-00
Chipset : nVidia nForce2 ICP

System Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 3
Maximum Installable Memory : 1.5GB
Bank0/1 - A0 : None None None None DIMM 1GB
Bank2/3 - A1 : None None None None DIMM 1GB
Bank4/5 - ÃËh : Empty

Chipset 1
Model : Nvidia Corp nForce2 AGP Controller
Revision : M2
Bus : DEC/AMD EV6/HSTL+
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 167MHz (334MHz data rate)
Maximum FSB Speed : 2x 200MHz (400MHz data rate)
Width : 64-bit
I/O Queue Depth : 8 request(s)
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 2672MB/s (estimated)

Chipset 1 Hub Interface
Type : HyperTransport
Version : 0.10
In/Out Width : 8-bit / 8-bit
Speed : 2x 200MHz (400MHz data rate)

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 1GB DDR-SDRAM 3.0-3-3-8 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS) CR2
Bank 2 : 1GB DDR-SDRAM 3.0-3-3-8 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS) CR2
Supported Memory Types : DDR-SDRAM
Channels : 2
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 200MHz (400MHz data rate)
Maximum Memory Speed : 2x 200MHz (400MHz data rate)
Multiplier : 6/5x
Width : 64-bit
Memory Controller in Processor : No
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No
Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 6400MB/s (estimated)

Memory Module 1
Type : 1GB DDR-SDRAM
Technology : 16x(64Mx8)
Speed : PC3200U DDR-200
Standard Timings : 3.0-3-3-8 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS)
Date of Manufacture : Saturday, December 25, 1999
Memory DC Line : 2.5V
Set Timing @ 200MHz : 3.0-3-3-8 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS)
Set Timing @ 167MHz : 2.5-3-3-7 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS)
Set Timing @ 133MHz : 2.0-2-2-5 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS)

Memory Module 2
Type : 1GB DDR-SDRAM
Technology : 16x(64Mx8)
Speed : PC3200U DDR-200
Standard Timings : 3.0-3-3-8 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS)
Date of Manufacture : Saturday, December 25, 1999
Memory DC Line : 2.5V
Set Timing @ 200MHz : 3.0-3-3-8 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS)
Set Timing @ 167MHz : 2.5-3-3-7 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS)
Set Timing @ 133MHz : 2.0-2-2-5 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS)

Environment Monitor 1
Model : ITE IT8712F LPC
Version : 7.00
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Temperature Sensor(s)
Board Temperature : 35.0°C / 95.0°F
CPU Temperature : 36.0°C / 96.8°F
Auxiliary Temperature : 69.0°C / 156.2°F td

Cooling Device(s)
Auto Fan Speed Control : No
System Fan : 3444rpm

Voltage Sensor(s)
CPU DC Line : 1.71V
Aux DC Line : 2.74V
+3.3V DC Line : 3.18V
+12V DC Line : 11.92V
-12V DC Line : -4.46V
-5V DC Line : -2.04V
Standby DC Line : 3.41V
Battery DC Line : 2.93V

AGP Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 3.00
Speed : 4x
Maximum Data Transfer Rate : 8x
Fast-Writes Enabled : No
Fast-Writes Support : Yes
Isochronous Mode Enabled : No
Addressing Enabled : 32-bit
Aperture Size : 64MB

System SMBus Controller 1
Model : nVidia MCP2+ SMBus 1
Version : 0A.01
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
Slave Device Enabled : No
PEC Support : No

This is the CPU that I have in there atm:

SiSoftware Sandra

Processor
Model : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2800+
Speed : 2.08GHz
Model Number : 2800 (estimated)
Cores per Processor : 1 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 1 Unit(s)
Bus : DEC/AMD EV6/HSTL+
Package : Socket A PGA
Multiplier : 25/2x
Generation : G7
Name : Duron M10 & Athlon MP/XP (Barton/Thorton) 130nm 1.8GHz+ 1.6-1.65V
Revision/Stepping : A / 0 (0)
Stepping Mask : A2
Core Voltage Rating : 1.650V
Maximum Physical / Virtual Addressing : 34-bit / 32-bit
Native Page Size : 4kB


I cant find any info anywhere that tells me fore sure what I can upgrade my CPU to, I would greatly appreciate any help or options you could suggest, also if you need more info or anything i can try to find it!

Thanks fellas!
 
That board is a socket 462, so only processors that are designed to fit in that socket will work.

(That socket is incredibly old and any new processor won't fit it)

I would start saving for a few upgrades (GPU / CPU / Ram / Mobo / newer power supply)

There's really no point in upgrading on that old board. But I mean upgrading your CPU / Ram / Mobo would only run you about 200 bucks for some pretty decent hardware.
 
Well my power supply is pretty new I think its 500W, literally I bought it not like 6mo ago probably so i think that would still work.

So another question I guess is, I know all these new boards use PCIe and I have a AGP card, would I get any kind of significant performance from my video card just going with a newer AGP motherboard and cpu? I have 2 gigs of ram atm, so I guess I would need:

1) New mobo, needs to be AGP
2) New CPU
3) New memory

I guess I'm worried about upgrading to more AGP stuff when theres PCIe to be had, but if I can get all of the above for a low price I think it would be worth it if you guys think Id get some better performance outta my 7800 GS OC, which when I bought it was "the best" AGP card out, I think it was about $600 heh.

Any suggestions on a set to look for? Places to buy this stuff?

Thanks again!
 
Here are your choices from cheapest to most expensive:

1. Overclock your current setup
Cost: Free
Benefit: Low, but cant beat the price

2. Buy used Socket754/939 AGP board and CPU
Cost: $50-100 depending on what you find
Benefit: Low to Medium (Medium being a decent 939 setup)

3. Buy new Socket939 parts
Cost: $100-160
Benefit: Medium, the chips are priced decently, but you'll have a hard time finding a decent 939 AGP board that overclocks, and you'll want to oc to see the full benefit of an upgrade

4. Buy an AGP AM2 board, chip, and memory
Cost: $120-170
Benefit: Medium, AGP AM2 boards are pretty low quality, and will not oc

5. Buy a PCIE AM2 board, chip, memory, and video card comparable to your 7800GS
Cost $250-280
Benefit: High, you can get a good board that will support quad cores, will overclock well, and if you sell your old hardware, especially the 7800 this wont be that much more expensive. You can get $100 for that 7800, and you can get an equivalent PCIE card (8600GTS or so) for around the same price.
 
I would do the last choice that funnyperson1 mentioned if I were you. Even going socket 939 is getting hard to do unless you want to look around for used processors and boards. The supply of new dual core socket 939 processors has pretty much dried up and the few that you can find are priced outrageously for what you get. The dual core AM2 procs are very reasonable and you can get a decent board for reasonable prices too. And DDR2 ram is very cheap right now too, with a 2 X 1GB kit going for around $50 that is still good quality stuff. And like fp1 said, you can sell the old equipment and recoup some of your expenses.

BTW, I am moving this thread to socket AM2 for you as we aren't allowing any new threads in the root AMD forum any more. I just have to get an Admin to lock it down now. :)
 
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