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A-Bomb

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I going to sell both of my computers--
One is a T-Bird 1200 that i'm using a golden(Blue) orb and if I let my bios sit on it in the PC health status It gets to 56c/132f and seems to level off about there after about 10 minutes. To me that's crazy hot, but the thing is when I run it the system is totally stable. Once before one time when the waterpump (yes iv'e tryed watercooling) had acidentally been shut off on my power strip it did freeze- I checked the temp on a reboot and it was around 150f+ or - 4 degree. Anyway she's fine now this computer isn't really the issue, but I want somone else with a 1200 and a orb to tell me what they have or any other 1200(not overclocked)
I have a celleron 366 that is crashing @45c/113f using a stock heatsink fan and it isn't even overclocked. I'm using radio shack thermal grease between both systems. I'd do one of my peltier watercooling combos on both, but people are such ninnys about water going through their systems even if dangerden tested the block to over 1000psi. I've got a dual thermaltake volcano2 coming in the mail, anyone ever try fitting that fan on a kt7-raid?
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what do you mean by a dual volcano II? do you mean you have two of them? If its just a normal volcano II, then yes, it will fit on a Kt7-RAID with plenty of room to spare.

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you will probably hear this again but ditch the orb your temps on both PC's are way to hot stable or not i'd try and get those temps down. I dont know of anybody running a orb on a 1200 most guys and gals around here overclock theres and so they use either top quality HSF combo or water or pelt's. It would be nice if you fixed the temp problem on the 1200 before you sold it i would not want someone coming back to my house with a fried PC after a couple of weeks crying the blues or i guess you could tell them about it too hey its none of my business just my 2 cents remember 56C is crazy hot and that sounds like its that at idle OUCH imagine after some hard core gaming goodluck
 
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Aman99 (May 31, 2001 11:11 p.m.):
what do you mean by a dual volcano II? do you mean you have two of them? If its just a normal volcano II, then yes, it will fit on a Kt7-RAID with plenty of room to spare.

Aaron

Dual as in dual fan, mang-
 
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outhouse (May 31, 2001 11:16 p.m.):
you will probably hear this again but ditch the orb your temps on both PC's are way to hot stable or not i'd try and get those temps down. I dont know of anybody running a orb on a 1200 most guys and gals around here overclock theres and so they use either top quality HSF combo or water or pelt's. It would be nice if you fixed the temp problem on the 1200 before you sold it i would not want someone coming back to my house with a fried PC after a couple of weeks crying the blues or i guess you could tell them about it too hey its none of my business just my 2 cents remember 56C is crazy hot and that sounds like its that at idle OUCH imagine after some hard core gaming goodluck

I'm a CS fanatic--- I tried my [email protected]+ with watercooling but it would freeze up on me. Still on this orb i've had it stable for a few weeks. Do you think I'm shotening the life span?
The weird thing is, if I reboot right now a jump into my bios, my temp will be @about 109f. but the longer I sit the more I watch it rise- you would think that the temp would maintain that high deg. after being in windows for awhile wouldn't you? I saw someone else post saying something simalar too. This system isn't my problem, like I said it's the damn 366- It'll freeze with way less stress.
My hope is that the orb will work on the celery and I'll put the volcano on the T-bird and out the door with both of em.
Next I'm gonna buy a 1000 AXIA and use a Copper cold plate-156Watt pelt with a power one P.S. to get the full 15volts then a danger den maze, and ontop of that is a 80Watt-peltier with another maze. I've even got longer nylon bolts from the den for my plexiglass. What I'm most worried about is those 2 peltiers heating up the water temperature in my 10 gallon fish tank exessivly. Also I may actually make it into the the condensation level- (hopfully) without goin with the vapochill route/ which is another headache-- Questions:
A. What is an inexpensive way to chill my water? Could everyone list what they are using for water chilling Ideas? I've heard of nail polish chillers and have seen allot of people using freezers. I've also hear from a guy who said the mix would only stay cold for 2 hours in his freezer then it would thaw to a rise.
B. Air conditioners have a hot radiator and a cold one I think- I'm not too farmiliar with how AC systems work, but I've had the idea of pluging the chilled portion after the evaperator and plugging it directly into my waterblock-- So could i go freon direct into my den?
C. How much would the Vapochill setup cost without the fancy case- can I get just the compressor setup and save some money that way?
D. I've heard of people chilling both sides of a socket-- I'm baffled how they chill the back side. How do they do it without shorting out pins?
E. The rumor is out about somone taking a T-bird to 2gig-- who was it, what motherboard and cooling did they use? Should I stick with the
A-Bit KT7a-Raid?
F. So what do you think about the 1000 AXIA Idea? Would I have better luck getting a 1333 AXIA-- in the database it seems the average is higher with the 1333 but most of the people aren't using the crazy cooling Ideas and stick with fans so the average is going to be lower just becouse the numbers start out sooner right? I mean it's the same frickin chip isn't it?
G. When are the paleminos really coming out and what is the overclocking potential? Of course I had to get ahead of myself--
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A-Bomb (Jun 01, 2001 12:54 a.m.):
E. The rumor is out about somone taking a T-bird to 2gig-- who was it, what motherboard and cooling did they use? Should I stick with the
A-Bit KT7a-Raid?
G. When are the paleminos really coming out and what is the overclocking potential? Of course I had to get ahead of myself--
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E: They use LN2 cooling... We had a nice debate about it being flash-overclocking. My idea of flash-overclocking is something that just POSTs and dies... Asus A7M266, Asus A7V133, Abit KT7A(-R) have been used in such combos. Don't know if anyone has used Iwills.
G. Athlon4 will be released on 4th of June. Get the Athlon with MP model, it's the server version. More cache, drool... Also, a new mobo should be bought if using Athlon4, as the current mobos don't support it well enough.
 

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It's liquid nitrogen cooling, LN2 is about -160°C. I (chemist) use it in the lab for kinetic experiments. Really neat stuff, ever tried to pour it? It's weird!
 
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[Oc]asmodean (Jun 04, 2001 03:08 a.m.):
Liquid Nitrogen, -170C...

I've asked about Liquid Nitrogen in the forums before----
from what i've discussed a guy told me that you need multi thousand dollar equiptment just to contain it---- It disapates constantly as far as I know. Handling it you could lose a finger and shatter it on the table your working on.
If you cool a chip with it you need to always keep it cold otherwise, fluctuating from that back to room temp could destroy your chip. I talked with a guy who used it in a metal thermos then had a copper coil run glycol inside of it then pumped that into his waterblock. Hmmmmm--- thats a good idea,
What I sould have asked him is,
1. how does he contain it for long a period time?
2. what type of pump did he use?
Another quesiton I'd like to know is - Could I just seal up a copper block with screws to contain it and vice the block onto the socket?
Does liquid nitrogen absorb heat?
If anyone could answer any of thease questions for me: it may consiter trying expirament with mabe a celleron 566 setup- then if it works go for the glory.
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I thought bout the same thing

#1 it cannot be sealed in a copper block-most would burst from the pressure
#2 it evaporated directly to a gas there fore you would need to refill it every so often
#3 there are no pumps out right now that would still b funtilnal with N2 running through it-thed freeze up
 

Thelemac

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Actually, there are pumps. I believe the military uses them or something like that. Saw that in another thread.

What you need to worry about with a setup like that is making sure your cpu doesn't get TOO cold. You really don't want it below -50C or so, because at that temp the silicon will start to pull itself apart because the cold is making it contract too much.
 
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i think an easier solution to Liquid N2 is A Dry Ice Aceton Slurry. Its cold enough to freeze a flower petal for smashing and is using cheaper stuff. I looked at slurry pumps though, for a 550gph the cost was like 800 and up.