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Dinzy said:How does this BIOS update required thing work for new adopters? I never had to deal with this, but I am sure some have. Sure in this case you may actually be able to flash to a new bios with the Venice CPU, but what if even that was not possible. WHat do vendors do to prevent this type of RMA situation from happening until the boards start shipping with updated BIOSes? Is there any warning posted on the product specs say at New Egg? Will they send you a board with the correct BIOS if you RMA? With the DFI board it seems like 3 weeks is not enough time to get the new BIOSes into the supply chain and completely replace the 1/25 loaded boards.
That is a very nice offer TimoneX, but it really reminds me to order a bios savior. Nan, we all should own one of those.TimoneX said:It probably isn't enough time, but there's nothing DFI can do about it. I haven't seen anyone say the board wasn't bootable w/ an E0 core installed either. If you or anyone else ends up w/ a board and no way to flash the bios to work w/ venice, send me the bios chip and I'll flash it for you and send it back, or order a bios savior and send me that to flash for you.
TimoneX said:Indeed. I recommend ParagonCA. They shipped me mine and sent me a tracking # within an hour of ordering. Terrific service after having problems w/ mwave for a month.
situman said:Hmmm they claim to be right all along. Inquirer states hardware issues, while companies states things can be fixed via a simple bios upgrade. How do they consider themselves to be "right all along?" Bunch of idiots
OC Detective said:....all mobo manufacturers have had samples of rev E cpus since October (so that will be 6 months now)...
Or it could be that the tech support person you spoke to is completely clueless! We already know that Venice is compatible with the Neo.geko said:I actually wrote to MSI about a week ago asking if they had any comment on whether or not the new E0 cpus will be compatible with neo2 ms7025 and they responded by saying that, and i quote, "we have not tested this new type cpu yet and we can not confirm if there is a BIOS released later for supporting this type CPU's"
They then said sorry for any inconvenience caused and gave me 2 links. 1 for supporting cpu's and 1 for bios information. But hey, maybe that's because im a nobody to them and the info's a bit hush-hush at the mo so failed to see a reason to let me know anything.
OC Detective said:Or it could be that the tech support person you spoke to is completely clueless!
hitechjb1 said:If the vendors (such as newegg, zzf, ...) and the motherboard manufacturers are smart, then they should work together and include a bios chip with the latest official version that supports Venice in each motherboard package. This can be done after the boards are already in the sale channels at the vendor level.
E.g. the DFI LP UT NF4 boards are shipped with a bios chip removal tool but without a bios (saver) chip.
If each board is shipped with a new bios chip plus the bios chip removal tool which can also be used as a bios saver, this would save them lots of RMA, phone support, ..., in return for that extra cost (few $), they would have lots of happy and satisfied customers, outstanding boards, and potentially better sales, ....
TimoneX said:I thought DFI was claiming it was for removal of the SLI & Vdimm jumper blocks. I find them to be of very limited use at any rate.