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Water cooling, Should I or Shouldn't I....

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Ghettoweasel

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Currently my system is rock solid @ 1.4ghz with 43°C the max temp recorded with 28°C system temp. Running a KT7A and 1.2 T-Bird 140X10 @ 1.7V. Idle and low load temps are running about 26°C (full idle and 22°C system temp) and about 31°C low load. Would water cooling be worth the extra money/headache....
 

dasouthernocer

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Well it kind of depends on if you would like to or not. It's not as hard as it sound everybody is pretty accommadating nowadays. You can get some fairly good kits for under 100 dollars. Your temps seem fairly stable to me although it just depends on whether or not you like your temps. Your temp probably won't change much from what they are now but could help you to get farther in ocing because it will handle more heat than your HSF combo will. Just upto you. Well if you need anymore help I'd be glad to assist.

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Ghettoweasel

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Hmmm, I just might try water cooling. I only think it will be worth it if I can get a few hundred more mhz out of it.....

What would be a good test method. Up the volts and see if it will run stable at a higer clock, say 1500 or so, even tho the temps will likely climb to 60+C, and if so, then go with water cooling?
 

ken257

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If you get better results by increasing the voltage water cooling will help because it can et rid of the heat, but it does not work miracles if you want a "few hundred more mhz" then you will have to get a little bit more radicle and use chilled water and maye a pelt.
 

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BigAir (Mar 26, 2001 05:51 p.m.):
You should also add TECs to take down the temps if you go to watercooling.

I think watercooling is better when used with a peltier too.. (Bought the peltiers and can´t conclude the wc setup here.. rrr)... There are very good air cooling solutions today with c/w aproaching to watercooling... So unless you really want to enter the watercooling or want to use peltiers, you may find other high cost (similar cost to wc setups) aircooled solutions that would just need to clip once and forget about any problems..

If you can find all the stuff near you... It will be easyer to make the watercooling setup... But Otherwise, like me.. I´m passing hard long times trying to make it work...
GLuck
 

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I strapped a 156W peltier to my MC-462A air cooled heatsink. About half the price of a First Class Water system (read not a cheap beginners rig). It did a good job handling the pelt, but I relied upon the clamping force of the mount to also supply the clamping force for the pelt sandwiched in between. This is not the correct setup for a peltier. It needs considerably more clamping pressure between the cold plate, it and the HS than the HS needs to the core.
I like my MC462A, but would prefer to water cool. One day I might, when I can come up with the dough to buy the best. Namely, Danger Den new design block, cooling cube, 250-500gph inline pump, push-pull fans and quality reservoir. Or, as time permits, I will go the opposite route and kludge up from my own design. The reason I will not use water cooling is not because I'm afraid of water inside my PC. These systems are safe, assuming you have a lick of sense installing them. The only drawback to using air cooling that approaches water cooling performance is the amount of air flow required to achieve it (read loud).

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Fink

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I doubt that you would get more than 100 more MHz with strictly water, a peltier with one of the newer chips will probably get you more, as has been previously stated. However, if you do go with watercooling, you will find that you can reduce the number or voltages of the fans within the case as you are now dumping processor heat outside the case, which will lower system temperatures and allow you to quiet the system down. Quiet was one of the reasons I originally went with water, my case sounded like an F-14 on AB, now not so bad.
 

AKDUDE

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Has anyone ever tried putting a pelt in between to heatsinks, and dunking the cold side sink into the reservoir? Maybe with a fan on the hotside to remove the heat from the water?
AKDUDE
 

Snuffleuppigus

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AKDUDE (Mar 27, 2001 02:17 p.m.):
Has anyone ever tried putting a pelt in between to heatsinks, and dunking the cold side sink into the reservoir? Maybe with a fan on the hotside to remove the heat from the water?
AKDUDE

it has been tried.... works good for a while, put the pelt will soon crumble under the load
 

Snuffleuppigus

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Snuffleuppigus (Mar 27, 2001 08:33 p.m.):
AKDUDE (Mar 27, 2001 02:17 p.m.):
Has anyone ever tried putting a pelt in between to heatsinks, and dunking the cold side sink into the reservoir? Maybe with a fan on the hotside to remove the heat from the water?
AKDUDE

it has been tried.... works good for a while, put the pelt will soon crumble under the load