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Shaft

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I am in the process of putting my first watercooling system together. What I have for it as of now is the Dangerden Maze2 Block, Dangerden Cooling Cube for the Radiator, and a resepump from www.caseetc.com ... I think it is going to be a pretty good system. But I was thinking about ways to improve the performace and I had a brianstorm. Would it help performace if I placed a second radiator in the system. Let me explain: I would have the water go from the resevoir/pump to the cooling cube. From there it would go to the waterblock and then after that I would have it go through another radiator before it goes back to the resevoir. I think this would help because it would cool the water down before it gets back to the resevoir and then make it easier for the cooling cube to cool it more. What does everyone think of this? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Shaft
 

Particle_Man

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hmmmm, Well, your thinking in the right direction (getting the water cooler) however, you are going to get stuck with diminishing returns. The limit of your cooling in your system is the ambient temperature. The closer the water temperature gets to the ambient temperature the less quickly it gives up it's heat. (hot objects radiate quickly, then as they cool they radiate less and less energy untill they are at ambient)

So, Adding another radiator anywhere in the system will essentially do the same thing as chaining them up in series. thier location doesn't really matter, what does matter is what temperature your ambient is, and how much surface area you have. But I have a feeling that the cube does a pretty good job at cooling the water down, probably adding another one won't cause you to see a *drastic* change in your water temperature, but you never know untill you try.

(If you do decide to add another radiator to your system, be sure that your water goes through the one on the outside *first*, then through the one that is sucking the coolest air second. This will cause better cooling than if you were blowing the air allready warmed by the first cooler through the second. Of course if you have two independant supplies of air, ignore this note :)
 

Hoot

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matt (Apr 16, 2001 12:41 p.m.):
one thing you could try is imersing the radiator in cold(ice cold) water thus lowering (ambient) temp

Be careful about going below the dewpoint temperature of your room air, else condensation may occur. Keep in mind that water conducts heat so much better than air, that having water cooling, even at ambient will do so much better than air cooling using ambient air.

Hoot
 

pii100

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befor try ing to water cool it is good idea to waterproff as mutch as possibl thus ruleing out condensation damage
also im intrested in methods of preventing condensation any ideas besides staying above dew point
 
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William

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keep water resonably cool. Use a pelt to solve the prob. Actually a second radiator might help out, especially if you use a large wattage pelt or even two as you can with the maze2. That way, you only have to worry about condensation over a very small area, the cpu, instead of your waterblock, and everything else in your system. Sounds great!
 

jordan

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i currently have 2 radiators installed ( a dangerden cube at top rear) and a single becooling rad at the front bottom- it helped out quite a bit, get at least a 350gph pump

contact chip eckert at [email protected] for the 350gph submersible pumps in 4x4x4 aluminum tanks, he also sells chiller units.
 

TechnoFile

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Jordan, helped out how much? any kind of temp difference to share with us? Also, what's your setup(CPU, mobo, etc)
 

Crash893

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Particle_Man (Apr 16, 2001 12:22 p.m.):
hmmmm, Well, your thinking in the right direction (getting the water cooler) however, you are going to get stuck with diminishing returns. The limit of your cooling in your system is the ambient temperature. The closer the water temperature gets to the ambient temperature the less quickly it gives up it's heat. (hot objects radiate quickly, then as they cool they radiate less and less energy untill they are at ambient)

So, Adding another radiator anywhere in the system will essentially do the same thing as chaining them up in series. thier location doesn't really matter, what does matter is what temperature your ambient is, and how much surface area you have. But I have a feeling that the cube does a pretty good job at cooling the water down, probably adding another one won't cause you to see a *drastic* change in your water temperature, but you never know untill you try.

(If you do decide to add another radiator to your system, be sure that your water goes through the one on the outside *first*, then through the one that is sucking the coolest air second. This will cause better cooling than if you were blowing the air allready warmed by the first cooler through the second. Of course if you have two independant supplies of air, ignore this note :)
i think your wrong

adding another radator would only make his computer match the outside air tempater quicker beucase the water is getting mroe surface area

the only draw backs to having two radators is that you need to pump the water farther to get it to the cpu and that the radators will probably make the systems more vunrable to temp spikes out side by matching the outside air quicker.

anyway thats just my thoughts