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Bonka

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Nov 17, 2001
That if I go out to my local computer dealer and get myself another 1.2GHz Celeron, it will get me a 133fsb? I'm thinking of going towards this route; hopefully build out another system as my main machine. My current chip isn't going any further.

I'm looking towards a retail one this time as opposed to the OEM.

Thoughts?
 

funnyperson1

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Jun 16, 2001
not much if you want the 133fsb get the 1.1A it will get you into the 140s and aroun 1.5-1.6 in speed...
 
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Bonka

Bonka

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The 1.1A's are a rarity in the area I live in. Even when I found a few, they were as much as the 1.2's. I do have the money now though. Since I've never bought a retail chip, and the mentioning of steppings and package date, are the package date/steppings found on the outside of the box? I'm not risking getting another bad Celly. I'd prefer the 1.2 but if push comes to shove, I'll settle for the 1.1. My goal is if I reach 133fsb/1.6GHz, I'm heading towards 1.7GHz.
 

davefred99

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You will be hard pressed to get a 1.2a to 1600 without some serious cooling and a lot of luck. I would recomend a 1.1a as most all of them will do at least get you 1500. I have not seen many oc's at 133fsb or above with the 1.2a chip and remember that even if you run 100mhz slower you will have more memory bandwith with a slower chip running on an fsb above 133mhz. The real bottleneck with the celleron/p3 processors is the memory bandwith. Get some good cl2 pc133 or better ram and oc the hell out of a 1.1a
Just my 2c worth, good luck
 
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Bonka

Bonka

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Thanks for the insight. Yep, I'm aware of the [email protected]/[email protected], which one will perform better scenario. No question higher fsb means better performance. I'm basically looking for a high overclock overall. With the experiences of my 1.2GHz, I'm somewhat soured of what sounds good can go stinky. That's why I'm not totally sold on the 1.1Ghz yet. It sure does sound good though.

So, what about the package date, etc. Those found on the box? If it is, I'll be visiting my computer shops soon.
 
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Bonka

Bonka

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Oh and another thing, should I be looking at any specific batch #'s/package dates? I remember Ol' Man mentioning that you should look for the B in the batch code for the 1.2 Cellys. I'm pretty sure I'll be able to find a good one this time.

Also, concerning the 1.1A, are there any people out there who've managed to get theirs to run at 145fsb on aircooling? I'm hoping if I get one of these suckers, I can reach that far. My main goal is to get it to reach 1.6Ghz, either with the 1.1 or 1.2. I'll also be purchasing the ThermalRight AX-7 w/Delta80CFM to let you know.

Insight appreciated :D
 

davefred99

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Bonka said:
Oh and another thing, should I be looking at any specific batch #'s/package dates? I remember Ol' Man mentioning that you should look for the B in the batch code for the 1.2 Cellys. I'm pretty sure I'll be able to find a good one this time.

Also, concerning the 1.1A, are there any people out there who've managed to get theirs to run at 145fsb on aircooling? I'm hoping if I get one of these suckers, I can reach that far. My main goal is to get it to reach 1.6Ghz, either with the 1.1 or 1.2. I'll also be purchasing the ThermalRight AX-7 w/Delta80CFM to let you know.

Insight appreciated :D
Not sure about the batch # except generaly phily chips packed in 2002.
As far as your goal of 1600 on air, good luck it is my experience that these chips do not like load temps above 42c and to get an oc @1600 will require an increase of vcor to about 1.8v wich will mean lots of watts of energy. Look at the thread here in this forum with the load temp/watts/volts and you will see that @ 1600 you are more than doubling your wattage and heat output.
I can run my 1.1a @145fsb for short periods of time but everytime I load it heavy it crashes and its allways when my load temps reach above 40c.
I still recommend the 1.1a for its almost guarenteed to hit 133fsb and should get you to the mid 1500's without much problems. I would rather have the memory bandwith over 50mhz of possible bragging rights.