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Quattro

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Hi,
I am after an overclockable chip, either a 2500+ Barton or 2700+ Thoroughbred. But I know AMD have locked the multiplyer on the newer ones, I know that to get an unlocked 2500+ Barton is has to have a build week pre-week 39.
At what data did AMD lock their Thoroughbreds or have they?

Suggestions...
 

funnyperson1

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The thouroughbreds are still unlocked as far as I know.

I have actually heard that the week 42 Bartons and above are unlocked again. An unlocked Barton would be my choice. Other than that the best Athlon chips right now seem to be 1700+ Tbredbs and 1800+ Tbred Bs
 
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Quattro

Quattro

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My dad has an AMD 2700+ Thoroughbred that maybe I can pry off him in exchange for something like a 2800+ or 3000+?

I thought that all new Bartons are locked, because AMD lose money when people buy cheaper chips and oc them.
 

MRip

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I've only seen reports of locked 1800+'s and 2600+'s, as far as tbreds go. I'm not sure if all the Bartons are locked.
 

dguy6789

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i sure hope the bartons are now overclocked. it makes sense. Although amd would have thought to lose money with unlocked chips, i dont think so. If the cpus are locked, the amd enthusiasts will go to the p4 .4c and oc that instead, losing amd money, but if they are unlocked, amd 1800+ and 1700+ are the best deals.
 
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Quattro

Quattro

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But would an unlocked 2700+ Thoroughbred be any good to oc?
 

c627627

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The 2100+ would overclock similar to 2700+, 2.3 GHz.

funnyperson1 said:
The thouroughbreds are still unlocked as far as I know.

I have actually heard that the week 42 Bartons and above are unlocked again.

The locked list now includes post week 39 Thoroughbreds.
http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=244237
• All weeks 43 and up are locked.
• Some weeks 39 to 42 are locked, some are not, and that includes Thoroughbreds, Thortons and Durons.

While 1800+ T-Breds have been reported locked, the 2100+ has not been so far...
 

Emberghost

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Just a little personal experience fyi. My 2700 is at 11x210 right now so I am pretty happy w/my amd running 2.3 GHz+
 

MRip

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2500's from excaliber are actually locked. They specify a stepping on their site not to show that the processor is unlocked, but that it is locked. They are from week 41 I think.
 
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Quattro

Quattro

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Oh, right.
Where can I find a guide that will tell me which bridges I need to join so I can unlock the multiplyer settings?
 

rxtrom

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you should also consider gettinf better memory too, that is going to hold you back too on your OC of the barton, or whatever CPU you decide to go With.
I personally have a barton week 34 i love it, i am in the process or watercooling it now, ITS at 2200 w/220fsb
 

Hoot

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Quattro said:
Hi,
I am after an overclockable chip, either a 2500+ Barton or 2700+ Thoroughbred. But I know AMD have locked the multiplyer on the newer ones, I know that to get an unlocked 2500+ Barton is has to have a build week pre-week 39.
At what data did AMD lock their Thoroughbreds or have they?

Suggestions...

This has been posted several times now. I'm so impressed with how well the locked 2500s overclock, that I just ordered another one for $83 shipped.

Hoot
 

Anaxagoras1986

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I think that, as Hoot said, despite being locked the 2500s still offer awesome overclocking potentials with just the FSB overclocking! :)
 
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Quattro

Quattro

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Really? Just FSB?
Okay then I'll go with hoot and get the a 2500+ Barton regardless of age, and OC it using only the FSB.
I do need to get better RAM, I have ordered TwinMOS PC3200, but I have been informed that it is crap, so I will be changing it yet again to some winbond or something.
 

docinthebox

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Which is the best Barton to get if I just want to oc the fsb to 200? (This is so that I don't have to oc the PCI bus, for stability reason.)

I also want the cpu voltage to be no more than 1.75V, so that I don't have to use a loud fan.

Locked or unlocked is not a priority for me. In fact, if a locked Barton can run cooler at higher freq, I'd be happy with it.

Will the latest locked Barton 2600+ be able to run fsb=200, i.e. achieve 11.5x200=2300? How about 2700+ (12x200=2400) and 2800+ (12.5x200=2500)? Same question for the unlocked Bartons.

Thanks in advance for any suggestion.
 
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Quattro

Quattro

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Just read your sig btw and you have the same processor as me with the "palamino" core. Did you find that it oc's better with higher multiplyer and lower FSB. For the moment my pc is running hot so they most I can OC is 148x13 the damn thing will not let me change the multipler...