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- Aug 27, 2004
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Meh, it's really boring in the AMD section these days. I remember the K8/P4 days where you'd see enthusiasts from both sides pushing their chips to the max and showing off in whatever area they excelled. Those 50% + OCs on Athlons were legendary too.
But nowadays I've pretty much lost all my faith in AMD. It's like they've lost that "special something" they used to have, either be it the game performance or OCability, it's the reason you were drawn to their CPUs.
Their current chips just seem like chicken feed and peanuts to me. Intel offers me everything a Phenom does and the magnitude of the advantage is so huge, it's ridiculous.
But what really makes me sad is that you don't see the competition from both sides like there used to be. From my point of view, AMD just goes around with the attitude "Yeah, we only sell average stuff - if you want something special, go with the competition".
Apart from some members, the complete community of AMD enthusiasts that made us proud of our hardware in head to head comparisons has completely disappeared. All I saw here the last 2 years was wishful thinking about AMD bringing a Conroe Killer, and all I got was, for it's time, a mediocre weld of two dual K8 chips. Phenom was such a disappointment, there is really no word to describe it . IMHO, it seems these chips have found such a deep love with AMD users, that 80% of the threads I see in this section are of guys showing their OCs on K8 retro machines. 10% are of problematic Phenom rigs, and the rest are news of guys getting 20% OCs out of them .
I have a feeling that Deneb is not going to meet general expectations, but we'll have to wait and see that. If we want to see more guys back in the AMD section, then it'd better OC up to 4 Ghz and match C2D performance while Nehalem remains out of reach for desktop users.
From the recent news, it seems the Nehalem release is really close. If AMD doesn't release Deneb soon as weel, then Nehalem will eventually displace C2D from extreme and enthusiast segment to mainstream, and imagine AMD still having to compete with current 45nm C2D mainstream products in the budget market in the future with their 65nm Phenoms... Neha is going to endanger the budget and server segments where AMD still makes some profit now.
If all fails - then "Ati" might take over AMD and keep developing graphic solutions and GPGPU while abandoning general purpose x86.
Sry for the nostalgy guys, but after being idle for so much time, I just needed to get rid of my gripes concering the actual situation of AMD. It just seems to me as if the "Judgement day" were drawing near .
dan
But nowadays I've pretty much lost all my faith in AMD. It's like they've lost that "special something" they used to have, either be it the game performance or OCability, it's the reason you were drawn to their CPUs.
Their current chips just seem like chicken feed and peanuts to me. Intel offers me everything a Phenom does and the magnitude of the advantage is so huge, it's ridiculous.
But what really makes me sad is that you don't see the competition from both sides like there used to be. From my point of view, AMD just goes around with the attitude "Yeah, we only sell average stuff - if you want something special, go with the competition".
Apart from some members, the complete community of AMD enthusiasts that made us proud of our hardware in head to head comparisons has completely disappeared. All I saw here the last 2 years was wishful thinking about AMD bringing a Conroe Killer, and all I got was, for it's time, a mediocre weld of two dual K8 chips. Phenom was such a disappointment, there is really no word to describe it . IMHO, it seems these chips have found such a deep love with AMD users, that 80% of the threads I see in this section are of guys showing their OCs on K8 retro machines. 10% are of problematic Phenom rigs, and the rest are news of guys getting 20% OCs out of them .
I have a feeling that Deneb is not going to meet general expectations, but we'll have to wait and see that. If we want to see more guys back in the AMD section, then it'd better OC up to 4 Ghz and match C2D performance while Nehalem remains out of reach for desktop users.
From the recent news, it seems the Nehalem release is really close. If AMD doesn't release Deneb soon as weel, then Nehalem will eventually displace C2D from extreme and enthusiast segment to mainstream, and imagine AMD still having to compete with current 45nm C2D mainstream products in the budget market in the future with their 65nm Phenoms... Neha is going to endanger the budget and server segments where AMD still makes some profit now.
If all fails - then "Ati" might take over AMD and keep developing graphic solutions and GPGPU while abandoning general purpose x86.
Sry for the nostalgy guys, but after being idle for so much time, I just needed to get rid of my gripes concering the actual situation of AMD. It just seems to me as if the "Judgement day" were drawing near .
dan