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What is RIAA monitoring?
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Who knows how much power they have... One thing is for sure. Filesharing will never end. When Things get to hot on Kazaa, people will switch over to a more secure P2Pnetwork. If the real world can't be controlled by lawenforcement, how are they gonna control the net????
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The concept behind peer to peer file sharing is that any user can request a file from any other user. The RIAA is no different. They can do the same thing that everyone else does: search for files, and download them. Then they know you have that file, and are sharing it illegally.
I'm sure they are monitoring different networks, but currently the network of choice for uneducated users is currently Kazaa. When kazaa loses it's edge, they'll try for whatever the next popular one is.
If you take a look at the real statistics though, and really think about it...
The RIAA convicted 1025 people last year out of the estimated 40 million americans who use p2p.
That's 1 in 40,000. Problem is, that's only americans. That doesn't include the rest of the world, and places like Malaysia or Hong Kong, where you can find bootlegged anything displayed openly in the markets. That doesn't mean you are any more hidden or unlikely to be caught, just that in the scheme of things, the RIAA really isn't doing a whole lot.
They're just seemingly randomly selecting people and making them examples. They are going at this all wrong. There are tons of good ideas in the front page article that are better than what they are currently doing.
I'm sure they are monitoring different networks, but currently the network of choice for uneducated users is currently Kazaa. When kazaa loses it's edge, they'll try for whatever the next popular one is.
If you take a look at the real statistics though, and really think about it...
The RIAA convicted 1025 people last year out of the estimated 40 million americans who use p2p.
That's 1 in 40,000. Problem is, that's only americans. That doesn't include the rest of the world, and places like Malaysia or Hong Kong, where you can find bootlegged anything displayed openly in the markets. That doesn't mean you are any more hidden or unlikely to be caught, just that in the scheme of things, the RIAA really isn't doing a whole lot.
They're just seemingly randomly selecting people and making them examples. They are going at this all wrong. There are tons of good ideas in the front page article that are better than what they are currently doing.
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So what you are saying is you will only get in trouble for sharing the files, but not downloading them?
If they sniff ingoing and outgoing mp3s, they wuold have to have a deal with the backbones of our intrenet... and to do that.. It would take HUGE multi multi multi million dollar machines to sniff that.. as the routers on the backbone are inherintly multi dollar machines... Not saying this wouldn't be possible as the RIAA is loosing millions every year from pirated songs.... or so they say...
I wonder... is this system in place orginally called carnivor? I thought that system was designed to sniff email only...
If they sniff ingoing and outgoing mp3s, they wuold have to have a deal with the backbones of our intrenet... and to do that.. It would take HUGE multi multi multi million dollar machines to sniff that.. as the routers on the backbone are inherintly multi dollar machines... Not saying this wouldn't be possible as the RIAA is loosing millions every year from pirated songs.... or so they say...
I wonder... is this system in place orginally called carnivor? I thought that system was designed to sniff email only...
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Actually, they just do normal stuff.. they download a bunch of songs from people who are sharing them, and take note of who those people are, and how many/what songs they have.
Then they share those songs, and the people who download them they take note of, and look at their collections. They then have proof that you illegally downloaded a copyrighted song off of them. Even if you dont' share anything, it's still possible to get caught.
There's no fancy equipment involved, besides maybe a few programs to monitor the incoming and outgoing connections to their computers.
Then they share those songs, and the people who download them they take note of, and look at their collections. They then have proof that you illegally downloaded a copyrighted song off of them. Even if you dont' share anything, it's still possible to get caught.
There's no fancy equipment involved, besides maybe a few programs to monitor the incoming and outgoing connections to their computers.
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They're not breaking it... they are the copyright holders, or are working on behalf of the copyright holders. They are also gathering evidenceDDR-PIII said:
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Currently Kazaa is the only monitored file sharing client, correct? Or are they going to branch out into the WinMX/iMesh/Soulseek etc. categories?
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in my opinion, they can try all they like, they are just going to end up losing more money than they gain in the end. the RIAA is just greedy, this greed will be their downfall. just as soon as they take down a p2p network, a better one will spring up too. i think its pretty funny.
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I think it is pretty funny how people think they can Steal copyrighted material. P2P may not die, But not as many people will be doing it since songs are now only 99¢ to D/L and you arent forced to buy all the crappy songs with the good ones.(FYI, CD)
. P2P may not die, But not as many people will be doing it since songs are now only 99¢ to D/L and you arent forced to buy all the crappy songs with the good ones.(FYI, CD)
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So what you pay them 16 bucks for the CD?
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A freind of mine got a letter from Comcast and the RIAA the other day saying that he is sharing ilegal files and they have proof. The letter said that he needs to stop sharing these files or face procecution. I was like WOW! I can not beleive this couldhappen to him. The truth was that his roommate was sharing the files and because my freinds name was on the Comcast bill, My freind got sent the letter. If anybody gets sued, It will be my freind. Sucks huh??
I was like WOW! I can not beleive this couldhappen to him. The truth was that his roommate was sharing the files and because my freinds name was on the Comcast bill, My freind got sent the letter. If anybody gets sued, It will be my freind. Sucks huh??
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As far as i know it is legal. But every record company has a different End Users Agreement. Reading that would tell you if it is "legal" to have there MP3's on your computer "If you own the cd"
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As far as I know Kazaa is the only Client being watched at this time. This could change in the future and unless the Federal courts get involved because of the recent disclosures of RIAA suing a grandmother who's computer couldn't even run Kazaa and a 12 year old who didn't even own a computer, im sure they will begin looking at the other P2P's. My question centers around videos.. I am wondering if the RIAA is at all interested in ppl who dl mpg's and avi's?
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That'd be the MPAA, a whole different can of worms.Chaospoet said:
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I know.. but my concern is are they feeding info on ppl they encounter? So far the MPAA has declined to get involved. I just wonder how long that will continue. I have heard about a application called peerguardian that is a filter looking at known ip addy's of the ppl sniffing. I have heard it works from ppl I know
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AFAIK, they aren't doing anything, but some of the companies are.
Couple guys in my residence got a nice letter from Universal Pictures asking them to cease and desist
Couple guys in my residence got a nice letter from Universal Pictures asking them to cease and desist
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Universal is one of the ip addy's that are blocked by peer guardian AFAIK.. if you do any P2P it would be in your interest to explore this app..
