What to beleive? how to be more accurate - help me set records!

[Mr.Guvernment]

I just got my DFI x38 T2R board, paired with an e4400 i plan to take through the roof (with help) with a Zalman s9700

cooler...


now, many post and diff throughts.. no temp monitoring app is accurate, okay great, make my life a living hell!


So, here is my situation.....

• 
  [*]DFI X38 T2R
  [*]Intel 4400 Stock (for now until i get this answer sorted)
  [*]Zalman S9700 Cooler
  [*]IC7 Paste
  [*]Evga 7600GT [Stock for now]
  

Bios reports - CPU 26C
CoreTemp------full load_________Idle
.....................54C.....................39C one core 38C other core


who could i beleive before i start cranking mass volts into this low end chip to set some records...

literally,,, i want to take this e4400 and 7600GT as FAR as i can, volt mods, the whole nine yards.. BUT... on air..... the

7600GT i could get a better cooler, but ONLY if the people here think it could help in setting some records....


So, bottom line is..........


I want to set some records for:

• e4400 overclock on air
• 7600 GT card on air stock cooling or 3rd party AIR cooling

.


...........so... can i do it on this mobo? with this cooling, or ?

 

[Jolly-Swagman]

Thought your Temps would be a bit better than that, with the Z-S9700,

E6550 @ 2800Ghz + ACFreezer7Pro on my rig gets 24/36C idle and 42/44C Load

 

[attack]

who cares what your temps are.
Leave it at stock voltage, run the freq up till it's unstable, once it crashes up the volts and try again, continue doing so until your at the highest setting.
It doesn't matter it's reading 80C or 40C, stable is stable and it's not measured in temps.

 

[ou_phidelt]

who cares what your temps are.
Leave it at stock voltage, run the freq up till it's unstable, once it crashes up the volts and try again, continue doing so until your at the highest setting.
It doesn't matter it's reading 80C or 40C, stable is stable and it's not measured in temps.

So if he has a bad seat on his mount and its running at 90C but isn't crashing that would be OK with you?

 

[Mr.Guvernment]

um ya, temp do matter so i dont fry this sucker...lol and being in costa rica, night time vs day time temps vary alot.... like now i have it @ stock idle and it reads 52-55c under core temp..


if temps didnt matter people wouldnt care... but they do,i dont want thermal control kicking in slowing my cpu down

 

[OnDborder]

Have you got a grip on the ram settings and voltages? There's alot of 'em..
Took me awhile to figure out the gtl's and vtt.

 

[attack]

If he has a bad seat and hits 90C he's not gonna get much over stock or even less with thermal throttling. So I'm sure any half competent overclocker would figure that out. If your worried about frying it then don't be overclocking to set records (if you can't afford to lose it I wouldn't push it far at all).
Temps really don't matter, they're never perfectly accurate and each silicon is different. You can judge loosely from temps that it's temps that are holding you back but what are you gonna do? try lower voltage? Well if you overclock right to begin with you'll never reach that voltage/freq setting.

You can use temps to determine best HSF seating with stock settings, that can be a use of overclocking. People care about temps because it's an epenis thing and they want to show how good their 50 dollar HSF fan is.
Now if your using liquid nitrogen or phase cooling temps might matter, but with air, nope sorry I don't buy it.

 

[Mr.Guvernment]

well ya i want to push this sucker, but also not kill it and use it day to day and in costa rica it gets hot!, but rainy seasons starts tomorrow official so should cool down nicely, i know it is almost impossible to fry a CPU these days with the thermal control and all.

i havent touched the ram settings yet, i am @ 3ghz right now, havent been able to play with it much, busy week

i have done alot of overclocking, and i just dont undestand how Temp is not important... if temp wasnt important, people wouldnt use heatsinks, or everyone would be buying cheap $5 ones... but every one know's the cooler electronics run, the better for them, less wearing on them, longer life span.... and for overclocking, keeping it cooler does affect your results, why people often with a stock cooler dont get great OC's, why processors have thermal specs and limits... if heat didnt matter why would intel tell you not to run your CPU over X temp?

i dont mind running a cpu in he 50's, and since this is a dual core that should be okay, but when i am hitting over 60C, 70C, then i start to worry