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whats better Orginal GF3 or Gf3 Ti200?
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*hold mirror up to backside*
Hey, I have an a$$hole, that means I get to have an opinion right?
I think they come somewhere between the 200 and the 500. Nearer the 500 end though. So probably about the same as some of those "Ti450"s are at spec or around the same as the max overclock on the lamest 200s.
Road Warrior
Hey, I have an a$$hole, that means I get to have an opinion right?
I think they come somewhere between the 200 and the 500. Nearer the 500 end though. So probably about the same as some of those "Ti450"s are at spec or around the same as the max overclock on the lamest 200s.
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This really depends on the manufactuer...
My gainward gf3 ti200 with the latest shipping bios sets the stock speeds to that of a regular gf3. However... my card NOW is running faster than a ti500... still the stock cooling with better TIM (thermal interface material).
When comparing from just one manuf. a ti200 is clocked at 175/400... the regular gf3 at 200/450... and the ti500 at 240/500. Actual performance difference between generations is about 5-6% depending on the system its in... so about a 10% difference between the ti200 and ti500.
Now... lets talk money. The ti200 is around 50-100 USD cheaper than the regular gf3... and the same amount between the regular gf3 and the ti500... hmmm... ok... so over $100 for 10% performance... ok... now lets look at mine (and many others)... Ti200... made by Gainward... goes for under $150 nowadays... look at my sig and take note of the core/mem speeds... thats rock stable and faster than a ti500...
My point is that if your in the market... save yourself some money and get a Ti200... it will overclock VERY well and 90% of the time reach speeds beyond ti500 defaults.
OH... and its red
My gainward gf3 ti200 with the latest shipping bios sets the stock speeds to that of a regular gf3. However... my card NOW is running faster than a ti500... still the stock cooling with better TIM (thermal interface material).
When comparing from just one manuf. a ti200 is clocked at 175/400... the regular gf3 at 200/450... and the ti500 at 240/500. Actual performance difference between generations is about 5-6% depending on the system its in... so about a 10% difference between the ti200 and ti500.
Now... lets talk money. The ti200 is around 50-100 USD cheaper than the regular gf3... and the same amount between the regular gf3 and the ti500... hmmm... ok... so over $100 for 10% performance... ok... now lets look at mine (and many others)... Ti200... made by Gainward... goes for under $150 nowadays... look at my sig and take note of the core/mem speeds... thats rock stable and faster than a ti500...
My point is that if your in the market... save yourself some money and get a Ti200... it will overclock VERY well and 90% of the time reach speeds beyond ti500 defaults.
OH... and its red
Specs by NVidia
here are the specs provided by nVidia...i also think they have it ranked best to not best/top to bottom...
here are the specs provided by nVidia...i also think they have it ranked best to not best/top to bottom...
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Not to dis Nvidia, but you knew this was comming right? At the 150.00 range you can get a retail ATI 8500 which is faster then any GF3 card.
That being said, I think the TI 200 would be your best value in Nividia's world.
(Can you believe a GF3 user would be saying this?)
That being said, I think the TI 200 would be your best value in Nividia's world.
(Can you believe a GF3 user would be saying this?)
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RainMaQer said:This really depends on the manufactuer...
My gainward gf3 ti200 with the latest shipping bios sets the stock speeds to that of a regular gf3. However... my card NOW is running faster than a ti500... still the stock cooling with better TIM (thermal interface material).
When comparing from just one manuf. a ti200 is clocked at 175/400... the regular gf3 at 200/450... and the ti500 at 240/500. Actual performance difference between generations is about 5-6% depending on the system its in... so about a 10% difference between the ti200 and ti500.
Now... lets talk money. The ti200 is around 50-100 USD cheaper than the regular gf3... and the same amount between the regular gf3 and the ti500... hmmm... ok... so over $100 for 10% performance... ok... now lets look at mine (and many others)... Ti200... made by Gainward... goes for under $150 nowadays... look at my sig and take note of the core/mem speeds... thats rock stable and faster than a ti500...
My point is that if your in the market... save yourself some money and get a Ti200... it will overclock VERY well and 90% of the time reach speeds beyond ti500 defaults.
OH... and its red
What he said.
My Ti200 was cheap and runs fast. Great overclocker too. I can HIGHLY recommend the Gainward Ti200!Fade
why no overclock????
my gainward ti200 went right to 240/550 right out of the box, and added a little arctic alumina and some bigger ram sinks and im sittin at 250/565 on a 150$ card. 3dmark score in sig.
and 8500's do better in 3dmark, not games. gf3 beats radeon in a lot of games. it is really a matter of prefrence.
im gettin real sick of everyone saying the 8500 is better. if all u care about is 3dmark than it is, but quincunx AA looks way better than smoothvision. I have owned both cards. and image quality is equal. turn digital vibrance on a gf3 to low and tell me wich looks better, 8500 or a gainward gf3.
-Malakai
my gainward ti200 went right to 240/550 right out of the box, and added a little arctic alumina and some bigger ram sinks and im sittin at 250/565 on a 150$ card. 3dmark score in sig.
and 8500's do better in 3dmark, not games. gf3 beats radeon in a lot of games. it is really a matter of prefrence.
im gettin real sick of everyone saying the 8500 is better. if all u care about is 3dmark than it is, but quincunx AA looks way better than smoothvision. I have owned both cards. and image quality is equal. turn digital vibrance on a gf3 to low and tell me wich looks better, 8500 or a gainward gf3.
-Malakai
I have tested both & the Geforce 3 is the better of the two cards.
However it also costs more & they are becoming rare because of the Geforce 4 range.
If you have the money I suspect one would go for the top range card at the time of purchase (Geforce 4 Ti400) but if on a tight budget the Geforce 3 ti200 is a great card.
Acko
However it also costs more & they are becoming rare because of the Geforce 4 range.
If you have the money I suspect one would go for the top range card at the time of purchase (Geforce 4 Ti400) but if on a tight budget the Geforce 3 ti200 is a great card.
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NODES said:
this forum does not allow public buying, selling, or trading you can do this through e-mail or private messages or with the proper number of posts you can use the forum classifides.
Regarding the card if your not planning to overclock it then buy the fastest card you can afford, otherwise if on a budget buy a Ti200 and OC the snot out of it. Most Ti200 hit GF3 levels and quite a few hit Ti500 levels.
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Malakai said:
Sorry Malakai, didn't mean to push any of your buttons. It seems I hit a sore spot with you.
I guess your right, it is a matter of Personal preferance but I would think most people who have used both (obviously not all because, as you have stated, you used both) would say the 8500 is a "faster" card then the GF3. As far as looking better. People, I guess, could argue either way based on how they percieve an image.
In 3D, I don't think I really can tell much of a difference between the two when it comes down to it. But based on the information I have read and see, I would say the 8500 has more potential.
Now if you have only lived with Nvidia technology for most of your gaming / overclocking experience, then you may be more comfortable with tweaking that environment. And it may not be worth the trouble / cost savings / performance increase to figure out how to get all you can from an ATI setup. So the best setup for you would most likely be a TI200.
But for someone who is willing to try (and give it a real try) some new experience's or who has not been in the 3D world long enough to have experience on a particular type of system, then I would say the 8500 might be a better choice for them.
What I try to do is look at the articles, read the specs, take a look at the system in action. Then make a decision which is best for me.
But to be true to my original post, when it comes down to hardware and spec comparason between the 8500 and the TI200, most people agree that the 8500 is the "faster" card.
As far as the visual quality issues and performance in certin games that you brought up, this again is something that is personal preferences and dependent on which settings are used but here is a quick article that delves into some of these issues more closely then what we can really discuss here.
http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/01q4/011123/index.html
Only difference is this was a comparison with the TI500 and not the 200 and it is a bit long in tooth now. Still good infomation.
So again I am off to find my fire proof outfit and will brace myself for the flames to follow.
Just keep in mind that I use Nvidia so do try to be some-what gentle.
