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Cyrix_2k

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I have about $230 to spend for water-cooling. I'm probably going to go with a kit as my dad's not going to let me order from more than 1 website. So the question is, whick kit should I buy? I'm thinking of the dangerden Maze4 power kit ($200) seen here or I might get the D-tek with the White Water block seen here I'm also open to other suggestions as well.(Remember, I need to ship the stuff out to my house with that money too)
 
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Cyrix_2k

Cyrix_2k

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It doesn't really matter. I have a small midtower case right now so I'm either going to use my *new* :D dremel to cut a hole in my case for the rad or run the rad externally. However, I think if I remove my lower drive bays, I'll have room for the rad in either kit.
 

Lothar5150

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I'd go with D-Tek kit becouse of the HC in the kit. But if you want to put your own kit togeather you may want to look here Then you could save by getting a HC from Autozone
 
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Cyrix_2k

Cyrix_2k

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I was going to put my own kit together, but it always seems to cost less when I look in to buying a similar kit.

So if I'm going to buy a kit, you think I should go with the D-tek. I heard that if I'm not careful with the WW, I can easily crush the core of my CPU. Is this true? I really don't want to kill my CPU.
 

Lothar5150

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I've read some of the post that say that...I've never used D-Tek blocks. I personally use Swiftech because I think the overall quality is better but a lot guys say they like D-Tek because they perform a little better.
 

E-Licious

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Buying one of the kits will save you money, at the cost of customization. I don't understand why people always said that you could just build your own system and you'd save money. I always price out the pieces alone, and they always come out to be more. With that being said, I chose to build my own system. I bought everything from danger den, and it ended up being more expensive than the kit they provide. It's higher performance though, and I thought the higher performance justified the 20% increase in cost. I'm planning on using this setup for years, and the only thing I want to change is the WB, come new CPUs, so I decided to look at the extra cost as an investment in my system.
 

johan851

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E-Licious - when you priced it out, did you figure Clearflex for $.65/ft at Mcmaster and a heatercore from an auto parts store? If you shop around, you can usually find stuff cheaper. Also, when people say that building your own is cheaper and better than a kit they're usually referring to kits like BeCooling, Corsair, Koolance, etc.

If you're not careful with any waterblock you risk crushing your core. A shim is a good investment, but if you use some caution and common sense you'll be fine.
 
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Cyrix_2k

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bananablack:
Why do you want to sell it? Also, you have an RBX and I'm afraid of crushing the core of my CPU. They also haven't been out long so I don't know how well they hold up. I will think about it as the price is certainly right.

Johan851:
I really don't want to use a shim. I'm afraid they'll hold the block too far off the die. I'm just afraid the rubber pads aren't enough to protect me from the pressure of three large rubber hoses and a large copper block's weight.
 

johan851

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bananablack said:
pm me. this is all new. rbx, bi pro radiator l30 pump, 10ft 1/2 tubing, evercool fan, hose clamps, y connector, t connector, and arctic silver ceramique. all for 175.00us. will send cod if necessary
You can't post info like this unless it's in the classified section. You might need to edit/delete your post.
 

johan851

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A shim won't hold anything too far off the die. It just gives the block less room to wiggle. Also, the RBX doesn't look to have as good of a center of gravity as the WW does...I don't know where you heard that it's easy to crush your core w/ a WW, but there's just as much danger when using an RBX.
 

E-Licious

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johan851 said:
E-Licious - when you priced it out, did you figure Clearflex for $.65/ft at Mcmaster and a heatercore from an auto parts store? If you shop around, you can usually find stuff cheaper.

No I did not. But considering 10 ft of tube would cost me $6.50 plus shipping, I would not save much, if anything at all, since I bought 10 ft from dangerden for $12.00, shipped along with my other stuff. I'm not gonna go through the hassle of placing a separate order just for tubing to save $2-3 (considering shipping is DIRT cheap from Mcmaster).

And getting a heatercore from an autoparts store is a lot more work. I'd have to buy barbs and attach those, and I'd also have to make my own shroud. I bought a double heater core with a shroud for 2 120mm fans from danger den for $50. I probably could have gotten it for 1/2 of that if I wanted to put in the work. But let's not forget that time is money also, and I'd rather put that time to doing other work, like building an external housing for my WC setup, or more importantly, having fun!

All things considered, this setup would still cost a hair more than the pre-configured setup. Granted, it will perform better, though.

johan851 said:
Also, when people say that building your own is cheaper and better than a kit they're usually referring to kits like BeCooling, Corsair, Koolance, etc.

Ah, well then, that makes a lot more sense. I thought they were talking about pre-configured WC setup where the retailer has chosen the parts.
 

E-Licious

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bananablack said:
sorry about posting this info in here. cant get into the classifieds yet. i got a double shipment.

Wow, that's ballsy. Most people wouldn't be man enough to admit they got a double shipment and just decided to keep it instead of doing the right thing. You could've lied and said something like the wife found out and was going to kill you if you didn't sell it.
 

bananablack

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E-Licious said:


Wow, that's ballsy. Most people wouldn't be man enough to admit they got a double shipment and just decided to keep it instead of doing the right thing. You could've lied and said something like the wife found out and was going to kill you if you didn't sell it.

theres nothing to hide. its the truth
 

Arkangyl

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truth yes....

morally wrong to some yes...


The thing to hide is you got something for nothing without the person you got it from knowing...

but hey, if that doesn't bother you ,,,,

just stay away from my house
 
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Cyrix_2k

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My parents said I need to clean up my room, then I can order. I'm probably going to go with D-tek. I just want to make sure that this is a good choice. Also, don't I get a better pump/ rad and block with the D-tek?

Johan: Do you use a shim?
 

Silversinksam

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bananablack said:


theres nothing to hide. its the truth

Truth or not, you wont ever be trading at this forum, lets say a member makes a mistake and ships you two products instead of one, you going to rip of him as well? Don't answer that as I don't care, but don't plan on ever seeing our Classifieds, and I will run your IP weekly to look for new aliases you may sign up, if I find one, the banhammer will fall.