SOLVED Why should I buy a FOP-38 or an Alpha anyways?

[The Master]

Why is everyone buying large and expensive coolers?
You can get just as good cooling with your std h/s!
I've got the std h/s's on and two large 80mm fans directly above, I get great temps without any expensive h/s's. My temps are: CPU1: idle 25C´ load 34C´ CPU2: idle 27C´, load 38C´ Ambient: 29-45C´.
Give me a reason why.

 

[coldmop]

Tried a 120 with a Sorb and I have to agree

 

[Jon]

Try cranking a 700 Coppermine up over a gig and tell me stock is enough. It'll cost you.

I will say that a stock cooler outperformed an FOP32 I had though...

 

[dimmreaper]

I screwed a Delta38 on top of an Intel retail 1GHz heatsink and was amazed with it's performance. It still fell short of my PFH6035 with YS-Tech27 though.

 

[markedmundb]

The Master (Mar 04, 2001 06:01 a.m.):
Why is everyone buying large and expensive coolers?
You can get just as good cooling with your std h/s!
I've got the std h/s's on and two large 80mm fans directly above, I get great temps without any expensive h/s's. My temps are: CPU1: idle 25C´ load 34C´ CPU2: idle 27C´, load 38C´ Ambient: 29-45C´.
Give me a reason why.

Well, aren't you the lucky bunny :¬)} ?

Overclocked and overvolted processors generate a lot more heat than those running at stock speed. I would much rather fork out a bit extra for a decent Sink and fan combo than have to replace my CPU, as I've burnt it out.

PS. My c566 got as warm as your idle temps (at 100% load) during burn-in at 2.0V, with a Globalwin FKP32. So there :¬p} LOL!

 

[TT120]

The Master (Mar 04, 2001 06:01 a.m.):
Why is everyone buying large and expensive coolers?
You can get just as good cooling with your std h/s!
I've got the std h/s's on and two large 80mm fans directly above, I get great temps without any expensive h/s's. My temps are: CPU1: idle 25C´ load 34C´ CPU2: idle 27C´, load 38C´ Ambient: 29-45C´.
Give me a reason why.

My stock HSF had a 60mm fan on it and I couldnt keep my temps down, 45 idle and 53 under load. But then I got a Super Orb and my idle temps went down to 28 idle and 44 load. Spending $22 for the Orb sure worked for me.

 

[The Master]

TT120 (Mar 04, 2001 06:16 p.m.):

My stock HSF had a 60mm fan on it and I couldnt keep my temps down, 45 idle and 53 under load. But then I got a Super Orb and my idle temps went down to 28 idle and 44 load. Spending $22 for the Orb sure worked for me.

Then you probably didn't have enough ventilation in your case.
And it's not the "mm" of the fan that matters, it's the amount of air it pumps out, isn't it? - A 120mm fan doesn't do so much at 5v does it?

 

[The Master]

TT120 (Mar 04, 2001 06:16 p.m.):

My stock HSF had a 60mm fan on it and I couldnt keep my temps down, 45 idle and 53 under load. But then I got a Super Orb and my idle temps went down to 28 idle and 44 load. Spending $22 for the Orb sure worked for me.

Then you probably didn't have enough ventilation in your case.
And it's not the "mm" of the fan that matters, it's the amount of air it pumps out, isn't it? - A 120mm fan doesn't do so much at 5v does it?

 

[klosters64a]

The Master raises very important issues. Unfortunately, there are too many variables to say that such and such a combination of fans and heatsinks work best for everyone's PC. For instance, I can state unequivocally that a 38 cfm Delta doesn't cool P3E 550's well enough when said fan is attached to a "standard" Vantec SI5 HS. T-Birds and Durons get so hot that even a Peltier+ H2O combination can't chill them anywhere near as well as this cooling setup does a PIIIE or CII.

PerhapsThe Master would be kind enough to expand on the details of his cooling setup for the benefit of the overclocking community? "std/hs's" and "+Extra cooling thingys" make it difficult to visualize his setup. Elucidation on how he attained a 93 Mhz FSB with C500's would also be greatly appreciated!

 

[Yomama]

The Master (Mar 04, 2001 06:01 a.m.):
Why is everyone buying large and expensive coolers?
You can get just as good cooling with your std h/s!
I've got the std h/s's on and two large 80mm fans directly above, I get great temps without any expensive h/s's. My temps are: CPU1: idle 25C´ load 34C´ CPU2: idle 27C´, load 38C´ Ambient: 29-45C´.
Give me a reason why.

Your temps are ok, but you are also not running that high.

In general on an Intel Chip, as long as you do not have to raise the voltage, your standard heatasink may be alright.

Better cooling may buy you more overclocking headroom - there are quite a number of people here that are running dual 1GHz rigs...

Yo

 

[Yomama]

Jeff Evans (Mar 04, 2001 01:04 p.m.):
I screwed a Delta38 on top of an Intel retail 1GHz heatsink and was amazed with it's performance. It still fell short of my PFH6035 with YS-Tech27 though.

I did a similiar thing, by putting a YS Tech on a PIII700 CB0 with stock heatsink (silver). It improved considerably - at least 5C, but not as much as my alpha PAL, which gave me another 4 or 5C with the same fan.

Yo