Why won&#39t my Duron 800 hit the gig or even 900 reliably

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I just unlocked the multiplyer using the #2 pencil method and tryed 900 @1.75 volts, 100fsb,9 for the multiplyer. I get a blue screen when opening windows or my computer automaticly reboots. I also tryed the gig since i couldn't do over using soley the fsb i tryed it at 1.8 volts becouse i read a post saying somone couldn't do it at 1.75. In that case I don't even boot and i get a message saying something like: cmos rom error. I'll try my peltier coolers next, becouse i used to be the cooling master back in the 366@616 day, but I've read several reviews that say duron 800's should safely hit a gig with proper air cooling. Well I am trying all this with a golden orb--
Thinking I should have wen't the 1.1 athalon motherboard combo for $300.
Any other 800 people out there?
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[Nagorak]

"...but I've read several reviews that say duron 800's should safely hit a gig with proper air cooling."

Not all chips are the same, some are better than others. It's all just luck. I had a Duron 600 that would not run higher than 650, go figure. Sometimes you get a dud, sometimes you get a champ.

I am extremely skeptical of the 1 GHz claim though. Very FEW Durons, in my experience, are good enough to hit a gig. Maybe if you turn off all of the advanced options on your motherboard, you can get many Durons running at 1 GHz. But you will sacrifice more performance in doing so...

 

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WHAT BOARD?

 

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I don't know what the deal is, but My Duron 800 is more like a Pentium 90 or worse. It's the weirdest thing I've ever come across. I have a Kt7-raid and I unlocked my chip using the pencil method. I tried my old 80W peltier using a PC power supply and watercooling with a fishtank as a resiviore. I went to my bios and I was happy to see my chip core @ around 13c. Then It rose to like 45-46 and leveled off. Well I was a bit dissapointed in a 7 degree drop from air cooling. Disaster struck after moving the voltage up to 8 volts. I tried the gig using both fsb and multiplyer with no luck. The next time I looked at my temp it was like 83c!!!!!!! Around 176 F. O.K. So I potentially my have fried my chip, but In my past experience with chip nuking, Lets look at my old celleron 366@616.

One night the water from my pump was shut off and the next day I see a melted mess of a plastic waterblock. THE PELTIER had overloaded all night untill it fried too. Well lets take a look at what a 50W can do to a chip when fried. My 366 still ran to my surprise, but could now only be stable @445. Ouch. So my brother is using that one as a hammy down.

Back to the 800--- It's soo weird, man. I can run Counterstrike and play online like it was the same old chip, but loading programs and just normal things it might take a literal minute or tow just to get a coursor to apper in a windows app. To me that's worse than my old pentium 90 putting reverb on a cool edit pro track. So I'm using it right now, but It's really slow with some things and normal with others. I wan't to sell it ASAP ,, but at the same time I don't, becouse I want whom ever to get their moneys worth. Any good tests I could run on it, that I could just download?
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[Vulture_16]

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What sort of mobo u got its probably not the chip maybe lack of ram or something thats slowing your PC up video card could be anything

 

[macros]

i got my duron 800 and an asus a7pro (same as a7v but with slower hard drive support) the bloody thing will run up to 872 just fine any higher and the thing starts to go awall. registry corrupt and bluescreens sometimes just goes blackscreen and jams. how do i get the bloody thing to go higher (and i forgot to unlock multiplyer b4 i put heatsink on and now its stuck there real good so i can only use fsb overclocking) im trying a few things such as voltage and fsbs and everything else i can alter. the bloody thing doesn't wanna work right. im gettin peeved off by it now. i bought the bloody thing to get it to about 980 or 1ghz. what the hell is wrong with it? is there some sort of bug in the 800's that stops it from getting anyting above 9% faster?

 

[Spartacus]

hellllllllllpppppppp how do you run BIOS??????????

 

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Vulture_16 (Dec 29, 2000 08:26 p.m.):
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What sort of mobo u got its probably not the chip maybe lack of ram or something thats slowing your PC up video card could be anything

I tried adding another 256 ram chip and now this computer is the fastest iv'e ever used, with 580+ total. Unfourtunatly I had to remove one of the 256/// but this time by taking out the old one it made my system snappy again. I think some ram chips go well with others and some don't. They're all pc133 but that's the way it seems. I about give up on the OC factor of this duron 800 in particular though. Above someone said that If I turned off all the Advanced Bios options I could probably hit a gig. I would like to know what options in particular would influence my clock rate. I still need to get back to using the peltier, becouse I need the fan for another cpu I'm building. This time I'm going to use a copper spacer next to the chip core then a 50W being cooled by an 80W thats water cooled. It's stick some foil and thermal grease between the 2 using an old AT power supply. If anyone knows a better and inexpensive P>S> between 12-16 volts and around 6-8 amps Let me know where. Anyone have any peltier cascading experience?
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[Nagorak]

Above someone said that If I turned off all the Advanced Bios options I could probably hit a gig. I would like to know what options in particular would influence my clock rate.

I was referring to the fact that, for example, I can run my Athlon 900 at 1133 MHz when I set my system performance setting to "Normal" rather than "Optimal" in the BIOS. But, like I said, you sacrifice performance. At the normal setting, with DRAM Interleving disabled, my processor performs slower at 1133 than it does at 1050.

 

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macros (Dec 29, 2000 10:10 p.m.):
i got my duron 800 and an asus a7pro (same as a7v but with slower hard drive support) the bloody thing will run up to 872 just fine any higher and the thing starts to go awall. registry corrupt and bluescreens sometimes just goes blackscreen and jams. how do i get the bloody thing to go higher (and i forgot to unlock multiplyer b4 i put heatsink on and now its stuck there real good so i can only use fsb overclocking) im trying a few things such as voltage and fsbs and everything else i can alter. the bloody thing doesn't wanna work right. im gettin peeved off by it now. i bought the bloody thing to get it to about 980 or 1ghz. what the hell is wrong with it? is there some sort of bug in the 800's that stops it from getting anyting above 9% faster?

You say you DID NOT UNLOCK THE L1 BRIDGES? Then that is your problem. you can not overclock the duron sucessfully without using the clock multilplier. It is not like a celly where you just up the FSB. The Via chipset gets very unstable with fsb of 105+ and will cause you all kinds of problems. I suggests pulling off your HSF and unlock those L1 Bridges and cranking up the core voltage to 1.85 and I bet you can get that gig (given you have very good cooling), anyway, you can't get there with FSB alone. you have to use the multiplier. Also, if your going to use a pelt to cool it you better get a bigger one than a 50W cooled by a 80W, you fry that chip. The 80W water cooled would work better that that combo. But I've heard you need a atleast a 85W pelt just to be effective. your not dealing with a celly anymore, your dealing with the very hot, hot, hot amd duron.

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