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Woodcrest Production Machine

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hafa

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OK, after nearly a month of work on the specifications and assembly of my new primary workstation, it’s now in production. I thought I’d share/show off some pictures and impressions, including some of my less than brilliant moments building this monster. But first, the specs (I know, rather redundant given the sig, but oh well…):

  • Supermicro X7DAL-E motherboard
  • 2x Xeon 5120 dual-core Woodcrest processors
  • 4 each 1GB Kingston 667 FB ECC RAM
  • Supermicro PWS-0060 PSU
  • Dual PNY Quattro 560 video cards
  • 500GB RAID 10 storage array, built on 4 each 250GB Seagate 7200.1 Perp drives
  • Raptor 150 system drive
  • 500GB backup drive
  • 300GB drive for media
  • Total Storage: 1.45TB

I really like the Xeon HSF retention system. Very industrial and built to last:

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Of course, your motherboard will sit properly if you install the plate correctly:

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Given the weight of the stock 5100 series HSF, it’s easy to understand why such an impressive retention system is necessary. These things are sold copper and weigh in at about a kilo each:

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I used the Coolermaster Mystique 632 for this build because 1) it has a good internal layout and airflow design with ample room for oversized power supplies, 2) it’s aluminium, 3) it was on sale at Mwave for US$70. Did I mention that it’s aluminium? Steel doesn’t stand a chance here.

Since the unit has a total of 7 drives, I needed a method of mounting and cooling the 3 drives not accommodated by the Mystique. I chose the Thermaltake 5.5” drive insert due to its 120mm fan and the fact that it’s aluminium:

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I had to do a bit of creative case grinding to get this unit to slide smoothly into the 5.5” bays on the Mystique:

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I chose the Supermicro PWS-0060, which is virtually identical to the PWS-056, except it has a single quiet fan. I’ll let Super Nade’s review speak for this PSU; it was only US$125 from Next International…

And here’s the system all put together; I still have a bit of wire management to do; just waiting for some longer cables to come in…:

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Here’s the back sans the restrictive fan grille and with a creatively modded alternative:

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And here’s the front, likewise with the stock fan grille cut out:

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And with the bezel in place:

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I chose to use Windows XP 64-bit for this system due to the fact that only a 64-bit OS can natively take advantage of all of the installed RAM. I’d rather have run Server 2003 (and tried), but since all of the versions which come in the MS action pack are 32-bit, they were out of contention.

As expected, the difference in performance between this and my old system (AMD 3800X2, 2GB RAM, 2 each 6600GTX, 74GB Raptor OS drive w/148GB Raid 0 raptor storage array) is significant. Just doing the Photoshop work for this post was so much faster and smoother (and thanks to the Quaddros, gone are the “disappearing image during crop” bugs). Illustrator redraws are lightning-fast, and I can multitask to my heart’s content with no reduction in performance whatsoever.

Apologies to DaveB, whose system I basically copied as described in this post. I didn’t get quite the deals he did, but his choices were nonetheless the best value on the market today.
 
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Very nice, hafa, excellent box.

hafa said:
I chose to use Windows XP 64-bit for this system due to the fact that only a 64-bit OS can natively take advantage of all of the installed RAM. I’d rather have run Server 2003 (and tried), but since all of the versions which come in the MS action pack are 32-bit, they were out of contention.

32 bit OSes with working PAE will do 4 GB RAM and more just fine. It just so happens that Mickeysoft decided that working PAE had to be removed from XP in SP2 for reasons nobody seem to know.
 
I am now jealous!

I wish I had the Funds for a machine like this.

Awsome rig.

Just out of curiousity,
What are the HSF mounting holes like, position wise... I am simply wondering if 3rd party heatsinks would fit.
I am wondering if large heatsinks would fit, and have propper mounting holes, such as the scythe, or similar, Something that would be cooled properly with a very low RPM 120mm fan.

Or.. are the beefy stock heatsinks loud? Can you hear them? when the case is closed?
 
uOpt said:
Very nice, hafa, excellent box.



32 bit OSes with working PAE will do 4 GB RAM and more just fine. It just so happens that Mickeysoft decided that working PAE had to be removed from XP in SP2 for reasons nobody seem to know.

Thanks, uOpt (yeah, you were there when I stole DaveB's system specs :D ).

I did attempt to set the /pae switch in the boot.ini file, but the system would basically lock up on boot. Turns out that it's a known issue with Nvidia drivers and pae on Xeon systems. It was at that point that I just decided to run XP64, as I do need full driver support for the Quadros.

OkydOky said:
I wish I had the Funds for a machine like this.

Awsome rig

Thanks, Oky...

It's kind of a chicken and egg thing with machines that generate revenue. You start out struggling with marginal hardware until it makes enough money for you to upgrade to a better machine which enhances productivity so that you make more money to buy the next best thing...

OkydOky said:
Just out of curiousity,
What are the HSF mounting holes like, position wise... I am simply wondering if 3rd party heatsinks would fit.
I am wondering if large heatsinks would fit, and have propper mounting holes, such as the scythe, or similar, Something that would be cooled properly with a very low RPM 120mm fan.

Or.. are the beefy stock heatsinks loud? Can you hear them? when the case is closed?

Passive HSFs are available with these processors and I'm sure that you could easily rig a couple of 120mm fans to blow over them...

The active HSFs have very good thermal speed controls (4-pin) which are controlled via the bios. I've got mine set to "workstation mode" which spins the fans slowly enough to where they're no louder than the 120mm fans under normal load (they are VERY loud when the machine first boots, but quiet down shortly thereafter). Processor temps remain around 45C even under extended full load, although after about 20 minutes, the fans will kick up a notch and make a little more noise. Mind you, this is at 28C ambient...
 
Just wondering, this being an overclocking place and all :), is there any reason you went for the dual Quadro 560's instead of a single (or dual) softmodded GeForce 6800 GT (or Ultra)?
 
Seven said:
So nice. Out of curiosity, what are you using 1.45TB of space for?

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The majority of storage space is consumed by graphic designs and photography for 6 years worth of files for over 350 clients. We also maintain synchronized backups of 25 large online MSSQL databases and 150 dynamic websites (some of which contain over 35,000 images). Of course, the entire archive is backed up daily as well, adding to the grand total.
 
emboss said:
Just wondering, this being an overclocking place and all :), is there any reason you went for the dual Quadro 560's instead of a single (or dual) softmodded GeForce 6800 GT (or Ultra)?

Well, to start with, the machine's not designed for gaming ;). The Quadros provide much better performance for vector-based design programs than gaming cards.

The reason why there are two cards is to serve 3 monitors in a spanned desktop display. By using 2 cards, we can take advantage of full redraw acceleration while spanning all three monitors. Since we commonly use up to 15 applications simultaneously, the large desktop space allows us to have an unobstructed view multiple interfaces/toolsets at a glance, thus enhancing productivity.

In terms of overclocking, I still play around with water cooling/ overclocking on some of our testing machines, but the production boxes aren't overclocked, as they're what you may consider "mission critical".

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Sorry, emboss I somehow missed the word "softmodded" in your post. There were a few reasons I did not do a softmod:

  1. AFAIK RivaTuner doens't contain any patch scripts for x64/Win23K
  2. Too much time/hassle (for a workstation, time=money and it's frustrating to not have it generating income)
  3. When it comes time to update drivers, hassle = (2(hassle))*(time*$)
  4. The Quadro 560 runs very cool and quiet compared to a 6800GT
 
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hafa said:
In terms of overclocking, I still play around with water cooling/ overclocking on some of our testing machines, but the production boxes aren't overclocked, as they're what you may consider "mission critical".

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hafa said:
Too much time/hassle (for a workstation, time=money and it's frustrating to not have it generating income)

Yeah, I was guessing it was something like this. Just had to ask, though :)
 
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