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worth the change from gts pro to ti4200?

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kanto

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I currently own a Gainward Geforce GTS Pro 64mb 4.5ns mem.
I was thinking in upgrading to a ti4200, but I don't know if its worth it. Will I notice I big difference?
It runs all new games, although its starting to lag in games like ut2003 and gta3 in 1024x768 (graphics set to medium). Do you think I should upgrade now or wait some time (if I don't buy in the next weeks I will have to wait for the end of April).

Specs:
Abit KG7-RAID (4J)
AMD 1.4
512 Crucial 2100 DDR Cas 2.5
Gainward Geforce 2 Pro 64MB DDR 4.5ns
40gB WD400BB 7200rpm hdd
10gB WD 5400rpm hdd
431w Enermax EG465P-VE psu
Win XP Pro
Via 4in1 v4.34
Official Detonator XP v30.82
 

repo man11

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It is your choice, but I was a little disappointed with the improvement from my GF2Ti to a 4200. Sure, my 3D mark went from 5700 to over 11,000, but in the games I play, Jane's WWII and iL2, the improvement wasn't as much as I'd hoped. I wish I had waited to get a 4400 with 128.
 
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kanto

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Actually I'm thinking in upgrading to the Leadtek ti4400 128mb or the Albatron turbo 128mb 3.3ns.
I would like to hear more opinions of people who made this change.
 

FIZZ3

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kanto said:
I currently own a Gainward Geforce GTS Pro 64mb 4.5ns mem.
I was thinking in upgrading to a ti4200, but I don't know if its worth it. Will I notice I big difference?
It runs all new games, although its starting to lag in games like ut2003 and gta3 in 1024x768 (graphics set to medium). Do you think I should upgrade now or wait some time (if I don't buy in the next weeks I will have to wait for the end of April).

Specs:
Abit KG7-RAID (4J)
AMD 1.4
512 Crucial 2100 DDR Cas 2.5
Gainward Geforce 2 Pro 64MB DDR 4.5ns
40gB WD400BB 7200rpm hdd
10gB WD 5400rpm hdd
431w Enermax EG465P-VE psu
Win XP Pro
Via 4in1 v4.34
Official Detonator XP v30.82

A Ti4200 is a decent upgrade, but a Ti4400 is good value too. I'd consider upgrading that CPU too though.
 
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kanto

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Right now I'm able to play unreal tournament at 1600x1200 all graphics set to high, and the game don't even blinks, but it's a 3 year old game. So I think that in a game like I wont notice any difference, but who plays ut anyways.:D .
It seems that the ti4600 visionteks are sold out, thx anyway.
 

CrystalMethod

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My brother recently upgraded from a GF2 GTS to a Leadtek 4200, and he's as happy as a pig in ummm.. well, you get the idea. For him it was worth it. He constantly complains about framerate in games that haven't changed in months. :rolleyes: You'll only see a difference in newer games (UT2K3, and GTA3), and the quality of the image for both new and old games.

Oh yeah.

Welcome to the forums!
 

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that would be a decent jump in performance but i would also look at the new economy line from ati I.E. 9500 and 9700 regular
 

Ghost68

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well the fact that the geforce4 ti4200/9500Pro are both DX8.1 Compatable at a hardware level they have pixel shaders and Full Scene Anti Aliasing and Anastropic Filtering they are definitely worth the upgrade...
now if it was my money id get the 9500pro cause it adds directx9 capability to the above list and itl smoke the ti4200 in nearly every test for about the same price (make sure its the 9500PRO cause the regular 9500 is really memory bandwidth limited which kills the performance...)
 

Ghost68

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i feel dirty posting this but its the only review i could find right now... Here
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oh and im sorry its not the mem bandwidth that kills the regular 9500 its the number of rendering pipes you only get 4 on the non pro as opposed to 8 on the pro version mix this with 128bit memory and it really drops the cards performance...

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almost forgot the radeon9500pro outperforms the geforce 4 ti4600 whe anti alaising and anastropic filtering is enabled and is just barely behind it without them turned on....
this is a great buy the 9500pro should cost around $180 and it competes with a Geforce4 Ti4600 which still averages $299
 
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larva

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kanto said:
Right now I'm able to play unreal tournament at 1600x1200 all graphics set to high, and the game don't even blinks, but it's a 3 year old game. So I think that in a game like I wont notice any difference, but who plays ut anyways.:D .
It seems that the ti4600 visionteks are sold out, thx anyway.

If this is how you see the situation, you won't be impressed with a GF4. The truth is however that GF2's are well into their limits at 1024, much less 1600x1200, regardless of how old the game is. GF4's are not a enormous leap over a GF3, but they are over a GF2. It sounds like you are overlooking the limitations of your present card in an attempt to save some money. If you are a serious gamer, you will see a very worthwhile difference between the two cards, especially if your choice is to run resolutions as high as you mention.

There is another factor to consider though. The video card is but one part of the system as a whole. With your current cpu you are not in a position to realize the very large difference in performance between a GF2 and a GF4. Your cpu and video card are well matched now, but if you increase only the video performance the cpu will be the limiting factor. If you had an Athlon XP cpu you would notice a larger improvement as you upgrade video. My advice is to get a 1600+, unlock and clock it, and get a GF4 Ti4200. The difference between a Ti4200 and a 4400 is indead very small, the cost difference between the two could help finance the cpu upgrade you need to make either one's impact worth the money.