• Welcome to Overclockers Forums! Join us to reply in threads, receive reduced ads, and to customize your site experience!

x800PRO $191 @ Newegg!---PCI-E--VIVO

Overclockers is supported by our readers. When you click a link to make a purchase, we may earn a commission. Learn More.
OP
jcw122

jcw122

Member
Joined
Jun 25, 2004
m3x1c4nj3w said:
no. the pci-express x800pros have the pipes lasercut, so there is no way to unlock.

I found out that the PCI-E ones do overclock much higher than the AGP ones though.
 

Quailane

Member
Joined
Oct 18, 2003
OC/ingmaddog said:
No. They can be modded. Just the x800pro VIVO's, as they do not have the laser cut.

No, they can't be modded. Just the x800pro AGP vivo has a chance of modding.
 

OC/ingmaddog

Member
Joined
Mar 4, 2005
Location
Washington
cre8 said:
It doesn't say anything about pci-e and that was back in 04

"It will only work on the X800 Pro VIVO and X850 Pro VIVO. Manufacturer does not matter. It will not work on any non-VIVO cards.
The modified flashrom has been updated on Jan 03 2005 to support both AGP and PCI-Express X800 Pro VIVO cards. The mod is the same, just get a X800 XT PE PCI-E BIOS when flashing a PCI-E card."

There you go. The bottom line is, get an x800pro VIVO, manufacturer does not matter, and flash it with the appropriate BIOS, ie. AGP or PCI-E.
 

Enablingwolf

Senior Member overclocking at t
Joined
Jun 14, 2004
Card makers do things to stop the modding. From January to December is a LONG time to consider if a mod still works. Most the enthusiests here keep up if hardware gets modded by the manufactures. Blowing any chance of a high success rate of changing the card into a higher model. Even the chance of zero.
 

__TRONIK__

Member
Joined
Sep 28, 2003
Location
washington d.c.
thats right, these will not unlock. If you want an unlockable card find one of the GTO's taht will - for cheaper than this.

And ATI knows full well what is going on here - I think the GTO was planned - they know how many 9500non pros they sold, and they need the attention right now. I think they introduced software voltage boosting because they were sick of RMA's cards with unsuccessful voltage mods, and figured far fewer cards would die from extra volts than would from microsoldering.
 

Quailane

Member
Joined
Oct 18, 2003
OC/ingmaddog said:
"It will only work on the X800 Pro VIVO and X850 Pro VIVO. Manufacturer does not matter. It will not work on any non-VIVO cards.
The modified flashrom has been updated on Jan 03 2005 to support both AGP and PCI-Express X800 Pro VIVO cards. The mod is the same, just get a X800 XT PE PCI-E BIOS when flashing a PCI-E card."

There you go. The bottom line is, get an x800pro VIVO, manufacturer does not matter, and flash it with the appropriate BIOS, ie. AGP or PCI-E.

The article is wrong.
 

OC/ingmaddog

Member
Joined
Mar 4, 2005
Location
Washington
__TRONIK__ said:
thats right, these will not unlock. If you want an unlockable card find one of the GTO's taht will - for cheaper than this.

And ATI knows full well what is going on here - I think the GTO was planned - they know how many 9500non pros they sold, and they need the attention right now. I think they introduced software voltage boosting because they were sick of RMA's cards with unsuccessful voltage mods, and figured far fewer cards would die from extra volts than would from microsoldering.

Only the Connect 3d GTO's seem to flash. However the Sapphire GTO2's flash to 16 pipes and a lot of them have almost reached x850xt PE speeds.

Quailane said:
The article is wrong.

How is the article wrong? Look at this post and tell me I'm wrong and the article's wrong:

http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=4093921&postcount=2

All of those effing cards were flashed successfully. So I don't get how you can say the article was wrong, how you can't flash these cards, you're wrong.
 

Enablingwolf

Senior Member overclocking at t
Joined
Jun 14, 2004
The thing is the thread starter mentions the x800PRO $191 @ Newegg!---PCI-E--VIVO. They have long ago proven the success rate is quite low for the extra pipes. The GTO's seem for now to have a high rate of unlocking/ It is not 100% or close like the older 800Pro AGPs were.
 

OC/ingmaddog

Member
Joined
Mar 4, 2005
Location
Washington
Enablingwolf said:
The thing is the thread starter mentions the x800PRO $191 @ Newegg!---PCI-E--VIVO. They have long ago proven the success rate is quite low for the extra pipes. The GTO's seem for now to have a high rate of unlocking/ It is not 100% or close like the older 800Pro AGPs were.

The success rate is high, it's just that the card may die after a period of time due to the stress of the added pipes. And you need to say GTO2's, cause the only GTO I know that successfully flashes is the Connect3d model.
 

Enablingwolf

Senior Member overclocking at t
Joined
Jun 14, 2004
Here is the results of the members here/. The AGP has a better chance per stats to grab the extra pipes. I bet most of the PCI-e owners would try if there was a even a slight chance. I think even some of the member have tried. Most just live with the fact it has a low flash rate.

Oh to keep the thread for getting all bent and going in a bad direction.. GTO2 :D hehe

I would like to see facts not personal jabs come into this thread, please keep it light and on the tech side. I will not respond if it goes in a direction that goes into flaming. :D If you have more links then one article to show us up, by all means please provide anything you need to show your side of the point.

X800PRO VIVO6175
1.78 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 646/610 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Maze 4, ramsinks - Yes 1.83v - 32/44 - sHape.oF.gReY
1.65 - BBATI....... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 595/600 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Maze 4 - no VM - 30/38 - lazua
1.65 - BBATI....... - R420 - 256 - PCIe - 600/561 - Y - 16 - S 2.0 - Zalman VF700CU - UK - 38°/55° - Sentential
1.63 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 588/594 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Zalman ZM80D - no VM - 39/68 - GazC
1.61 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 580/607 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Zalman - Yes - 39/68 - koldphuzion
1.60 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 580/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Zalman HP80A - no VM - 39/65 - cory6119
1.57 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 569/549 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - s370.HeatSink - no VM - 36/58 - SlyJavi
1.55 - BBATI....... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 560/580 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - NeoMoses, ramsinks - no VM - 31/40 - DipStickTony
1.54 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 555/586 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - TTgiant3 - no VM - 37/59 - Buzzdog
1.54 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 555/583 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Maze 4 - Yes - 32/42 - Albuquerque
1.53 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 550/590 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Air Conditioner - no VM - 21/35 - False.Christian
1.53 - Connect3D - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 550/580 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - xx°/xx° - Bazra
1.53 - HIS.......... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 550/580 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - ATI Silencer 4 - no VM - 38/58 - Mohawk
1.53 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 555/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - ATI Silencer 4 - no VM - 32/47 - Biofear
1.52 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 547/574 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 42/65 - albrob
1.52 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 550/570 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Silverprop - no VM - 33/38 - cracker1082
1.50 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 542/572 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 40/70 - mange303
1.50 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 540/595 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 43/73 - verbatim
1.50 - GeCube.... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 540/575 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 35/68 - babyelf
1.49 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 535/595 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 42/68 - Amstel
1.47 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 530/570 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - VGA silencer - no VM - 36/63 - xiaolanhua
1.47 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 530/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 46/76 - scanido
1.46 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 526/576 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 46/76 - slyfury
1.46 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 526/575 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Artic Cooling - no VM - 41/61 - kilmar
1.46 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 526/573 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - PCI FanCard - no VM - 42/.. - Vrykyl
1.46 - ELSA........ - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 526/573 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 52/77 - neliz
1.46 - BBATI....... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 525/573 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 46/.. - The.Cook
1.45 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 524/564 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 50/80 - Robert
1.45 - Club 3D..... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 525/525 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 41/68 - Wiggie
1.44 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 518/570 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 50/70 - xiaolanhua
1.44 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 51/78 - BumblebeeTuna
1.44 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Artic Cooling - no VM - 37/58 - Unrealsword
1.44 - BBATI....... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 40/67 - Frumpco_Friend
1.44 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - VGA silencer - no VM - 32/46 - eaa315
1.44 - ELSA........ - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - VGA silencer - no VM - 39/57 - voodoothenoob
1.44 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 49/69 - therapture
1.44 - ASUS....... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 40/70 - WarKpt
1.44 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Artic Cooling - no VM - 36/62 - Ventis
1.44 - GeCube.... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 41/52 - Sl1m1thy
1.44 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/540 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 43/71 - The.Death
1.44 - Club 3D..... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/530 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 37/70 - highpingdrifter
1.42 - Connect3D - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 510/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 45/75 - Oni28
1.39 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 500/520 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 43/75 - mustrum
1.38 - Club 3D..... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 500/500 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - xx°/xx° - Draggi
1.34 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 480/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 44/72 - ::qcx::
1.32 - Connect3D - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 475/500 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 48/75 - mlaine
1.31 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 475/450 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 47/78 - corny
1.27 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 600/600 - N - 12 - S 1.6 - Waterchill - no VM - 35/35 - Gilhooley
1.15 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 544/566 - N - 12 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 50/80 - Robert
1.08 - BBATI....... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 508/525 - N - 12 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 43/63 - RAMMAN
1.08 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 510/500 - N - 12 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 45/73 - GrAC3R
1.06 - BBATI....... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 500/500 - N - 12 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 40/72 - jallen

X800PRO PCIe6175
1.40 - BBATI... - R423 - 256 - PCIe - 669/610 - N - 12 - S 2.0 - Water - Yes 1.66v/2.45v - 34°/43° - kswaid
1.35 - Sapphire - R423 - 256 - PCIe - 650/546 - N - 12 - S 2.0 - ThermalTake venus 7 - Yes 1.46v - 30°/38° - Quailane
1.22 - BBATI... - R423 - 256 - PCIe - 580/550 - N - 12 - S 2.0 - UK - no VM - xx°/xx° - custom90gt
1.16 - BBATI... - R423 - 256 - PCIe - 550/550 - N - 12 - S 2.0 - Arctic Silencer - no VM - 37°/54° - soundx98
 

OC/ingmaddog

Member
Joined
Mar 4, 2005
Location
Washington
Enablingwolf said:
Here is the results of the members here/. The AGP has a better chance per stats to grab the extra pipes. I bet most of the PCI-e owners would try if there was a even a slight chance. I think even some of the member have tried. Most just live with the fact it has a low flash rate.

Oh to keep the thread for getting all bent and going in a bad direction.. GTO2 :D hehe

I would like to see facts not personal jabs come into this thread, please keep it light and on the tech side. I will not respond if it goes in a direction that goes into flaming. :D If you have more links then one article to show us up, by all means please provide anything you need to show your side of the point.

X800PRO VIVO6175
1.78 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 646/610 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Maze 4, ramsinks - Yes 1.83v - 32/44 - sHape.oF.gReY
1.65 - BBATI....... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 595/600 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Maze 4 - no VM - 30/38 - lazua
1.65 - BBATI....... - R420 - 256 - PCIe - 600/561 - Y - 16 - S 2.0 - Zalman VF700CU - UK - 38°/55° - Sentential
1.63 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 588/594 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Zalman ZM80D - no VM - 39/68 - GazC
1.61 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 580/607 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Zalman - Yes - 39/68 - koldphuzion
1.60 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 580/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Zalman HP80A - no VM - 39/65 - cory6119
1.57 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 569/549 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - s370.HeatSink - no VM - 36/58 - SlyJavi
1.55 - BBATI....... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 560/580 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - NeoMoses, ramsinks - no VM - 31/40 - DipStickTony
1.54 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 555/586 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - TTgiant3 - no VM - 37/59 - Buzzdog
1.54 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 555/583 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Maze 4 - Yes - 32/42 - Albuquerque
1.53 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 550/590 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Air Conditioner - no VM - 21/35 - False.Christian
1.53 - Connect3D - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 550/580 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - xx°/xx° - Bazra
1.53 - HIS.......... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 550/580 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - ATI Silencer 4 - no VM - 38/58 - Mohawk
1.53 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 555/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - ATI Silencer 4 - no VM - 32/47 - Biofear
1.52 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 547/574 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 42/65 - albrob
1.52 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 550/570 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Silverprop - no VM - 33/38 - cracker1082
1.50 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 542/572 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 40/70 - mange303
1.50 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 540/595 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 43/73 - verbatim
1.50 - GeCube.... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 540/575 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 35/68 - babyelf
1.49 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 535/595 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 42/68 - Amstel
1.47 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 530/570 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - VGA silencer - no VM - 36/63 - xiaolanhua
1.47 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 530/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 46/76 - scanido
1.46 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 526/576 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 46/76 - slyfury
1.46 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 526/575 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Artic Cooling - no VM - 41/61 - kilmar
1.46 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 526/573 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - PCI FanCard - no VM - 42/.. - Vrykyl
1.46 - ELSA........ - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 526/573 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 52/77 - neliz
1.46 - BBATI....... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 525/573 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 46/.. - The.Cook
1.45 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 524/564 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 50/80 - Robert
1.45 - Club 3D..... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 525/525 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 41/68 - Wiggie
1.44 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 518/570 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 50/70 - xiaolanhua
1.44 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 51/78 - BumblebeeTuna
1.44 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Artic Cooling - no VM - 37/58 - Unrealsword
1.44 - BBATI....... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 40/67 - Frumpco_Friend
1.44 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - VGA silencer - no VM - 32/46 - eaa315
1.44 - ELSA........ - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - VGA silencer - no VM - 39/57 - voodoothenoob
1.44 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 49/69 - therapture
1.44 - ASUS....... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 40/70 - WarKpt
1.44 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Artic Cooling - no VM - 36/62 - Ventis
1.44 - GeCube.... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 41/52 - Sl1m1thy
1.44 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/540 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 43/71 - The.Death
1.44 - Club 3D..... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 520/530 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 37/70 - highpingdrifter
1.42 - Connect3D - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 510/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 45/75 - Oni28
1.39 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 500/520 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 43/75 - mustrum
1.38 - Club 3D..... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 500/500 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - xx°/xx° - Draggi
1.34 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 480/560 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 44/72 - ::qcx::
1.32 - Connect3D - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 475/500 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 48/75 - mlaine
1.31 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 475/450 - Y - 16 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 47/78 - corny
1.27 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 600/600 - N - 12 - S 1.6 - Waterchill - no VM - 35/35 - Gilhooley
1.15 - PowerColor - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 544/566 - N - 12 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 50/80 - Robert
1.08 - BBATI....... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 508/525 - N - 12 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 43/63 - RAMMAN
1.08 - Sapphire... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 510/500 - N - 12 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 45/73 - GrAC3R
1.06 - BBATI....... - R420 - 256 - AGP. - 500/500 - N - 12 - S 1.6 - Stock - no VM - 40/72 - jallen

X800PRO PCIe6175
1.40 - BBATI... - R423 - 256 - PCIe - 669/610 - N - 12 - S 2.0 - Water - Yes 1.66v/2.45v - 34°/43° - kswaid
1.35 - Sapphire - R423 - 256 - PCIe - 650/546 - N - 12 - S 2.0 - ThermalTake venus 7 - Yes 1.46v - 30°/38° - Quailane
1.22 - BBATI... - R423 - 256 - PCIe - 580/550 - N - 12 - S 2.0 - UK - no VM - xx°/xx° - custom90gt
1.16 - BBATI... - R423 - 256 - PCIe - 550/550 - N - 12 - S 2.0 - Arctic Silencer - no VM - 37°/54° - soundx98

Pfffft. I'm a fricking idiot :bang head. I thought that first list was PCI-E. Thank you for proving me wrong:). Haha. I feel so stupid now...bleh. But I am right about the GTO2's I know cause they only come in PCI-E!!! :). Well okay then, the x800pro vivo PCI-E even though they may not flash, they still can be overclocked pretty high can't they?