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i just got a 7800x3d for a friend and he wants to run it in a x870e taichi lite since it has 5g network card on it for his fiber internet he has.. anyways my main concern is, will it be stable with a 7800x3d in it and 6000 gskill z5 neo ram? i was just curious if the 7000 series will run ok.. thanks
 
i just got a 7800x3d for a friend and he wants to run it in a x870e taichi lite since it has 5g network card on it for his fiber internet he has.. anyways my main concern is, will it be stable with a 7800x3d in it and 6000 gskill z5 neo ram? i was just curious if the 7000 series will run ok.. thanks
It should be, absolutely. You can double check the RAM against the QVL list, but I'd imagine 2x16GB DDR5-6000 won't be a problem at all. :)
 
One last question . Does anyone know if the 5g realtek nic on it is any good. Idk why they didn't use killer network this time around ???
 
I believe its a Realtek 8126 on the Taichi. You'd be hard pressed to see a difference between them, I'd bet.

I think intel bought killer...so there's that... lol.

How fast is dude's fiber that you need a 5GbE port???
 
unless your friend is a crazy collector and seeder of Linux ISO's they will never get even close to saturating 1/5th of that bandwidth.
 
Back on track. The realtek 8126cg shouldn't give any issues I know it's new..
 
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For me Realtek NIC is still better than anything Intel released for home/office solutions in the last couple of years. Intel still has problems with 2.5GbE NICs on various switches and routers (bandwidth drops to 1Gbps max). There are no issues at all with Realtek, and Realtek drivers are in every MS OS in the last few years, while 2.5GbE Intel NICs are not available without manual updates. This seems like no issue, but officially, there are no driver packages for 2.5GbE or higher non-enterprise series NICs for Server 2016/2022. I'm not a Linux guy, but I saw some recommendations about Realtek for Linux regarding home servers.
On the other hand, I see no issues at all with Intel WiFi 6/6E/7, and since most motherboards have them as M.2 type cards, they're easy to upgrade.

I still don't get how the market moved from 1GbE to 10GbE in higher-series motherboards and then started to promote 2.5GbE. It caused most 10GbE options to disappear. Now they brag about 5GbE NICs on selected top models.
 
i just got a 7800x3d for a friend and he wants to run it in a x870e taichi lite since it has 5g network card on it for his fiber internet he has.. anyways my main concern is, will it be stable with a 7800x3d in it and 6000 gskill z5 neo ram? i was just curious if the 7000 series will run ok.. thanks
Should be fine. With ram at above officially supported speeds, there's always some chance it might not work regardless of what the ram or mobo makers say. Still, 6000 is pretty safe in AM5 era. Above that gets much more risky.

unless your friend is a crazy collector and seeder of Linux ISO's they will never get even close to saturating 1/5th of that bandwidth.
"My internet is too fast" said no one ever. :D It will be interesting what single endpoints there are out there capable of saturating it. Otherwise still good for multi-user.

I still don't get how the market moved from 1GbE to 10GbE in higher-series motherboards and then started to promote 2.5GbE. It caused most 10GbE options to disappear. Now they brag about 5GbE NICs on selected top models.
Because 2.5/5 standards came much later? Early mobos either stuck with gigabit or had to go 10. Once 2.5 started taking off that was far lower cost - for new equipment anyway. I'm not including those who buy used EOL enterprise equipment cheap.
 
Because 2.5/5 standards came much later? Early mobos either stuck with gigabit or had to go 10. Once 2.5 started taking off that was far lower cost - for new equipment anyway. I'm not including those who buy used EOL enterprise equipment cheap.

5GbE was earlier but was replaced by 10GbE. However, it was the server standard, and desktops and workstations got 10GbE. As I remember, prices were not much different back then, so I guess that manufacturers decided to sell 10GbE with backward compatibility with 1 and 5.
2.5GbE somehow appeared from nowhere when people expected 10GbE to be the next step. Then marketing was pushing the "new and faster 2.5GbE" when many already had 10GbE on older motherboards. Now, 10GbE is only in top and highly overpriced motherboards. Somehow, the prices of switches and routers are barely lower. I have an older 10GbE switch, and its price is almost as high as a couple of years ago.
The only reason 2.5GbE started to be popular was its lower price, but with 10GbE available for so many years, we would expect to have it in home computers as a standard in 2024.
 
5GbE was earlier but was replaced by 10GbE.
As far as I can tell 5 was introduced by the same standard as 2.5, both in 2016 (link below). 10GbE copper was much older from 2006. I'm not looking at anything that isn't copper since that will never be mainstream in a consumer environment. The problem I was thinking of was that 10 copper being a much older standard, that old hardware could not support 2.5 and 5.


The only reason 2.5GbE started to be popular was its lower price, but with 10GbE available for so many years, we would expect to have it in home computers as a standard in 2024.
I had a quick look on Amazon UK. 2.5 NICs are very cheap, and the switches are plentiful. More expensive than gigabit of course, but lots of choice in unmanaged 5 and 8 port models.

10 NICs start over 3x the cost of 2.5. I did find one somewhat affordable switch but most cost a lot more. That affordable one was more industrial than home/office, being rack mount with fan.

I was unable to find anything at 5. I'm not sure there is enough of a price gap for it to exist in. Even the case for 2.5 is somewhat marginal in cost benefit vs gigabit, but it was ideal for me since it allowed full speed single HD transfers that gigabit couldn't.
 
I remember 5GbE being in some enterprise devices for some time, but it was quickly replaced by 10GbE. I don't remember exactly how many years ago that was. Either way, look how long 10GbE has been on the market, and prices are not getting much lower. I have a Netgear XS505M switch, and its price is barely lower than it was seven years ago. Lucky me, I got it on sale.
Recently, there have been many new mixed switches that aren't cheap but are already affordable and offer as much as most users need at home or in a small office. I mean something like 2x 10GbE + 5+ 2.5GbE or 2x 10GbE+ 5+ 1GbE.

I guess one of the reasons manufacturers want 2.5GbE as a new standard is that the bandwidth is +/- the same as the max of typical home WiFi. In short, so there are no bottlenecks in your local network. It doesn't look so great in reality, but as you said, building a 2.5Gbps environment is already quite cheap.
So we keep posts at least in some way on topic, in my environment, Gigabyte X870E Pro ICE could make up to ~2.45Gbps on the cable and up to ~1Gbps WiFi when the connection between 2 computers in the same network was around ~2.4Gbps on the cable and ~500Mbps on the WiFi. This is why I said that, in reality, it doesn't look so great, even though, in theory, both connections should not be far apart. This is what marketing never tells ;)
 
Thanks for all the responses . Just asking cause the 8126cg 5g nic is new and I didn't know if it will be any good or not ..
 
Thanks for all the responses . Just asking cause the 8126cg 5g nic is new and I didn't know if it will be any good or not ..
I googled for reviews, but didn't find too much on it. There's some M.2 Network cards with it and PCIe NICs with 8126, but I didn't see any coverage on it in a motherboard. I'm sure your friend will be fine and get the throughput he's expecting with that schmmmmmokin' fast internet. :)
 
That's all I want . I don't want tons of driver issues or a high failure rate .. that's all
That's.......impossible to know this early in the game. Boards weren't available until 9/30. But Windows 11 did pick up on it and it worked out of the box in the two mobos I covered that have them.

It is what it is. If the thing gets wonky, buy PCIe-attached 5GbE card.

Anyway, post some pics of his rig, or something when he gets it! We like hardware pr0n! :)
 
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