XP rig's gonna crash

[walaka7]

Man i got a rude awakening this morning, as i found my new rig frozen in time (was 5:20 am and cloack said 4:49 .) I had to flush twice to get windows to run (first reboot hung before desktop even came up) Now its VERY laggy.. one minute its okay and the next the mouse wont respond and windows wont close.. <sigh> unfortunately i work 20 miles from home (where rigs are) so i cant babysit them and i dont have time to resolve tha problem (I dont even know what it is) the last time i saw this kind of problem, the motherboard was going bad. oh well ill see what problem is tonight
FOLD ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
also whats happened to active processors.. it showed 800+ over weekend and now is only 643.. are we losing our folding crew??

 

[muddocktor]

Sorry to hear that you're having probs with the XP rig. I hope that it's not the mb going bad, that costs money to fix.

As far as the processor count, I think that some of the extra "phantom" processors that Stanford has been showing must be finally clearing out of their database. I know that they were showing me folding with 7 or 8 processors and I'm just running 5. I wish I had another 2 or 3 athlon procs folding because I would probably be in the lead in the contest.

Fold on, man!

 

[robertm]

Sorry to hear about your troubles with that XP.

The problem with active processors I figure has to do with eveyone seeming to get the long ProteinA's Again. As i know they take about 10 hours on my fast boxes this would drop the daily processors there system sees for a time until work units strat rolling in.

 

[Tweaked!]

Yeah, like RobertM said, some of our smaller machines that take 3 days or more to complete one of those bigger wu's might not get counted as a active proc till they get done and turn in their work. I'm not for sure on that, but I know that I have 1 p166 thats been getting nailed with those proteinA's, it takes over a week to get it done. But it still makes it in time

 

[walaka7]

Glad to hear that the 166's are handling those BIG "A"'s.. I guess the o/c gods were smiling on me today, cause the XP rig stayed up the whole day.. It is, however, behaving really poor and i must do something.. I am going to pop the covers and do a quick temp check to see if anything is out of ordinary temp wise.. if i dont see anything there then im gonna reinstall explorer (been having a lot of probs with IE) As i say.. when in doubt, blame Microsoft first

 

[muddocktor]

I've had some problems with IE6 crashing on me too with all my machines that I regularly use to go online with. Just love that M$ browser stability. Otherwise my rigs are running real stable with Win2K and XP.

 

[KFB]

it takes eXPerience to overclock a system and maintain long-term stability. think everything through and you will see improvements.

 

[Loud]

Glad to hear that the 166's are handling those BIG "A"'s.. I guess the o/c gods were smiling on me today, cause the XP rig stayed up the whole day.. It is, however, behaving really poor and i must do something.. I am going to pop the covers and do a quick temp check to see if anything is out of ordinary temp wise.. if i dont see anything there then im gonna reinstall explorer (been having a lot of probs with IE) As i say.. when in doubt, blame Microsoft first

Could this be a spyware problem?

If you don't already know, AdAware is a free download from lavasoftusa.com ... it removes spyware. Look for 5.7 - you might have to go to one of the mirror sites.

 

[walaka7]

Thanks loud, i will try that.. I had heard something about spyware causing problems and that may just be the ticket.

Well KFB, I dont know about O/C causing the instability as this rig runs 24/7 and has done so for over a week with no problems... I went from 1750 down to 1725 and the FSB push is almost nonexhistant (was 140 now 138) The kicker is , none of the chips are hot... The cpu is at 102-115*F (i haven't done the bios fix for temp sensor so i think that is high by 6-8* as the water is only 84-94*F room gets cold at night and warm during day) and the ram is @100*F both sticks.. my vid card is around 106 *F at GPU the rest of the PCI's are at 80-85* I just dont think that slowing this rig down anymore is gonna solve anything and i dont believe raising vcore will help as i have done that before.. it just made more heat, however explorer has been screwing up regularly so i am going to exhaust that issue .. I will post with results to let you all know what happened.. for today, im gonna cross my fingers as i ran outta time to reinstall explorer last night..

FOLD ON 32!!!!!!!!!

 

[Loud]

You're welcome. Glad to help.

There are a couple other utils at lavasoft that seem to be pretty neat. RefUpdate is a PHD ("Push Here Dummy") program to keep the AdAware signature file current. And RegHance hooks into AdAware to help maintain the registry (I haven't played with this one yet).

Analogx.com is another site with some good free stuff. MaxMem is a TSR that garbage collects memory. CookieWall is a firewall for cookies - it lets you decide on a permanent basis which cookies to allow and which to delete. And there's a bunch of other stuff ... set your PC time to atomic clocks ... fun stuff like that.

Just trying to help out.

 

[walaka7]

Update

Well, the darn thing appeared to fix itself LOL.. If had IE crashes while running the fold.. but no hangs or freezes since.. I am going to try to wait on the regclean until the weekend as i dont want to do anything that has to do with the registry unless i have time to rectify a worse case senario (a corrupt registry which can be caused by a cleaning utility..
Im going to combine the wisdoms of KFB and yourself.. im gonna wait and observe the situation and make an itelligent decision as to what to do and when possible (this weekend) i will run a regclean utility (i need to get rid of unused drivers anyway).. For now, im gonna let it run and do all necessary work on my backup rig and hope for the best .. I really appreciate all of your replies.. My typing and choice of words can come off the wrong way and im easily misunderstood (one of my dark traits ) but i just want you all to know that most of what i know now is what ive read here and another site i frequent... the knowledge gained here is stagering. I hope to one day be able to return the favor..

to all

FOLD ON 32!!!!!!

 

[KFB]

well walaka7 you are yourself a very competent overclocking artist. i am wondering how you got temps for everything *RAM PCI, etc). DigiDoc? i was thinking it was a hardware issue, but after your posts it looks more like software is to blame. let us know what happens.

this site is definitely contains a wealth of quality information. a BIG thanks to the people who make www.overclockers.com and the forums work!

 

[Loud]

I agree! More competent than I, you are. I'm one o'them Big Blue Big Iron dinosaurs you read about.

As to the problem ... hmmm ... you DID mention it was a brand new rig ... right? Maybe it just needed some burn-in time?

Maybe we should try the Micro Slop standard answer ... "Have you tried re-booting it?" ROFLMAO

 

[walaka7]

I have a raytek infrared pyrometer.. As i am an auto mechanic by trade.. some of the toys i use for fixing cars work great for puters.. The raytech uses infrared tech. to gets temps without making contact to equiptment (of course you must hold close or temps might be a little off) They can be bought for around $70 but i find mine invaluable as i use it to diagnose plugged radiators, T-stats, intake manifolds and the like..
heres a link i found real quick (not a very good one but it has the specs)
http://www.inspectortools.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=detail&id=56973&product=77&pageid=75

heres a link to what has been going on with rig.. it has been up for about 2 months
http://home.earthlink.net/~walaka7/

 

[KFB]

damn that Ir pyrometer sounds d0p3
edit:nice webpage. now i understand how to unlock an XP so that i can if i ever get one. i might just wait for the thoroughbreds, aptly named as the fastest desktop 32-bit processors.

 

[walaka7]

Grab some XP's when they get cheap.. then unlock and clock baby!.. I am thinking of building another rig too.. i would probably just buy a cheap case and move everything down a step (put me a tbred in me fluid case .)

Will wait till end of year though.. i wanna max this XP first and save some bread so i can maybe be ready for upgrade in time for x-mas

 

[KFB]

yeah, i am just thinking that i should save bread 'cause i have spent enough on computers in the past year. i need to make $ with them

 

[JetMech]

yeah, i am just thinking that i should save bread 'cause i have spent enough on computers in the past year. i need to make $ with them

I thought I was the only one on that guilt trip. Good to know I have company

 

[KFB]

walaka7, the Thoroughbreds will be out sooner than the end of the year. According to AMD's roadmap they should be out in the first half of 2002. If they were to coincide the release of the Thoroughbred core with the Kentucky Derby, that would be cool!

 

[walaka7]

I have to wait till end of year though cause i use my x-mas bonus for me toys