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And with the strong support for PC2100 memory, I dont see 333fsb till 2GHz Athlons at least!
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XP2000/2100 Here! January :)
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I would just like to update everyone that the XP2000 will be the last Palamino AthlonXP processor.
The XP2200 will be the Throughbred (T-bred) core and will run 25~33% cooler and will start at a clock speed of 1.8GHz.
The XP2100 was apparently canceled due to the performance/marketing pressure the new 2200MHz northwood processors and the new scale design used by AMD to compete with the newer Pentium4 Core.
AthlonXP processors will now only increase with 133MHz and not 66MHz with the Exception of the AthlonXP 2500 which will be a 2GHz Throughbred which is used to compare with the 2533MHz Northwood (533fsb).
Last, just a wild guess, but 333fsb will only be from 2GHz so looks like were gonna change motherboards if you want the new fsb processor.
AXIA
The XP2200 will be the Throughbred (T-bred) core and will run 25~33% cooler and will start at a clock speed of 1.8GHz.
The XP2100 was apparently canceled due to the performance/marketing pressure the new 2200MHz northwood processors and the new scale design used by AMD to compete with the newer Pentium4 Core.
AthlonXP processors will now only increase with 133MHz and not 66MHz with the Exception of the AthlonXP 2500 which will be a 2GHz Throughbred which is used to compare with the 2533MHz Northwood (533fsb).
Last, just a wild guess, but 333fsb will only be from 2GHz so looks like were gonna change motherboards if you want the new fsb processor.
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wow, i didn't know they used the same sockets. My motherboard runs at 1.82v by defualt with the ability to add .4v to that. Thats a lot of power, and a lot of o/c power.
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Ok, appearently, the XP2000 becomes avail-world wide January 7th. I saw this on 'The Register' two days ago.
anyhow, the XP2200 will be here -early to mid- February, unless AMD decides to make one last adjustment to there fab labs to be more efficent with the new .13m technology.
anyhow, the XP2200 will be here -early to mid- February, unless AMD decides to make one last adjustment to there fab labs to be more efficent with the new .13m technology.
So the 2200XP will be on the .13 micron process?
and teh 2000xp and below are on the .18 micron process. And I getting this correctly?
Is there planning on being a big difference between the 2000 and the 2200, cause I am building a new system but i don't want to wait for eternity for it. I could get the 2000 and OC to the 2200.
and teh 2000xp and below are on the .18 micron process. And I getting this correctly?
Is there planning on being a big difference between the 2000 and the 2200, cause I am building a new system but i don't want to wait for eternity for it. I could get the 2000 and OC to the 2200.
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Palamino XP2000 = 1667MHz .18M 1.75V
Throughbred XP2200 = 1800MHz .13M 1.60V
Besides the Die shrink and lower power consumption, the Palamino and Throughbred are the same in everyway. Thou, I would wait for the XP2200 since it will overclock six times as high as what the XP2000 could achive in an overclock. With .13M technology, the XP2200 should hit 2GHz without even a voltage upping.
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Throughbred XP2200 = 1800MHz .13M 1.60V
Besides the Die shrink and lower power consumption, the Palamino and Throughbred are the same in everyway. Thou, I would wait for the XP2200 since it will overclock six times as high as what the XP2000 could achive in an overclock. With .13M technology, the XP2200 should hit 2GHz without even a voltage upping.
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it seems AMD will be having a extremely promising future indeed! but i am just wondering how well the new Barton against matured Northernwood...interesting to see
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AXIA said:Palamino XP2000 = 1667MHz .18M 1.75V
Throughbred XP2200 = 1800MHz .13M 1.60V
Besides the Die shrink and lower power consumption, the Palamino and Throughbred are the same in everyway. Thou, I would wait for the XP2200 since it will overclock six times as high as what the XP2000 could achive in an overclock. With .13M technology, the XP2200 should hit 2GHz without even a voltage upping.
AXIA
As long as it fits my Socket A board I don't care!!!! Intel look good though I mean, 533Mhz FSB??? I mean there memory will be about 1Ghz!!!
How on earth can the 266FSB 2200+ Thoroughbred compete?
When will AMD change the socket?
One last question will the 2200+ have any new Features like SSE2?????
Have a
Merry Christmas!!!!
The 2.2Ghz Norhwood is going to be a tough competitor, but IT will still not sufficiently use its clock cycles. It is trying to go with a bigger pipe depth to get more information out at a time, meaning greater bandwidth using ram and pipe depth. But its XP great use of clock cycles that makes it so impressive. The ram on the Intel processor blows away any DDR ram, but the 2200XP will most likely blow by the Intle. In the benches against the 1900XP -vs- the 2.0GHz the 1900 leads the way and in some cases even the 1,4 athon out doing the 2.0 Intel.
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What is SSE2 does the xp have it? Which CPU does have it?
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the Throughbred has the same features as the Palamino (current XPs) and does not contain SSE2. Barton will feature SSE2 and 512KB L2 Cache.
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HugoHenry said:
yes but the newer 1600+ will overclocker better and the prices will drop!! oh yeah!
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From what I understand, there will be only four more 266FSB Athlon processors, and then 333FSB will countinue and compete against the powerful 533FSB Pentium4 processors.
That includes the XP2000/XP2200/XP2400 and (XP2500 which is just a rumor still (2000MHz CPU)).
What this means is that anyone planing to upgrade should stay clear of 266FSB motherboards and instead invest in a 333FSB motherboard which will be out March. Its worth the two month wait. Look for the KT333 and AMD770 Chipset to bring in the 333FSB.
Of course, VIA will have the KT333a by fall which will bring AGP8X, and Serial ATA.
That includes the XP2000/XP2200/XP2400 and (XP2500 which is just a rumor still (2000MHz CPU)).
What this means is that anyone planing to upgrade should stay clear of 266FSB motherboards and instead invest in a 333FSB motherboard which will be out March. Its worth the two month wait. Look for the KT333 and AMD770 Chipset to bring in the 333FSB.
Of course, VIA will have the KT333a by fall which will bring AGP8X, and Serial ATA.
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nick_cw said:
As long as it fits my Socket A board I don't care!!!! Intel look good though I mean, 533Mhz FSB??? I mean there memory will be about 1Ghz!!!
How on earth can the 266FSB 2200+ Thoroughbred compete?
When will AMD change the socket?
One last question will the 2200+ have any new Features like SSE2?????
Have a
Merry Christmas!!!!
Intel looking good well northwoods are going to open at 700 dollars still look like a good chip?
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EL,
The Throughbred (XP2200) processor will run at 1.8GHz and feature .13M technology. With this, you will have overclocking potential well over the 2GHz mark. I'm thinking that most people should hit at least 2.1/2.2GHz with these newer processors(possible 400MHz gains). This is easily done since the T-bred uses only 1.600V and most boards support up to 1.850v which means you got alot more head room for overclocking.
The XP1600 can hit 1.60GHz with 1.85V (without VMOD). 200MHz Gain
The XP2200 can hit possibly hit 2.20GHz with 1.85V (without VMOD). 400MHz Gain
The Throughbred (XP2200) processor will run at 1.8GHz and feature .13M technology. With this, you will have overclocking potential well over the 2GHz mark. I'm thinking that most people should hit at least 2.1/2.2GHz with these newer processors(possible 400MHz gains). This is easily done since the T-bred uses only 1.600V and most boards support up to 1.850v which means you got alot more head room for overclocking.
The XP1600 can hit 1.60GHz with 1.85V (without VMOD). 200MHz Gain
The XP2200 can hit possibly hit 2.20GHz with 1.85V (without VMOD). 400MHz Gain
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333Boards looking good but i'm lucky as my 266board hits 333FSB quite easy!
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will the .13 run at lower vcore? that is what I thought.
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Its 1.65V or -.10V on our boards!
