Intel Upcoming 9-series Chipset Won’t Support Haswell

August 30, 2013 Jonathan Heroux Motherboards, News 27

Website Xbit Labs reports that upcoming Intel chipsets for mainstream desktop processors will implement support for yet-unnamed “Haswell Refresh” CPU and future Broadwell parts. Other information leaked points to the fact that those new chipsets will not support current Haswell processors, thus effectively making the 8-series motherboard a single generation products with no upgrade path.

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According to documents found by website VR-Zone, the upcoming silicon from Intel will have slightly different power specifications. Although Z97 and its cutdown little brothers will be using the same socket 1150 as current Z87 boards, those differences in power requirements will make the new boards backwards incompatible with Haswell chips. We can also assume that current 4000-series Core “i” processors won’t be able to run in 9-series motherboards, ultimately sealing all upgrade paths for both processors and motherboards of current generation.

The motherboards based on Intel’s 9-series chipset are expected to support both upcoming “Haswell Refresh” chips that are set to show up in mid-2014, as well as codename Broadwell parts which will likely be released some time in 2015. The new board will feature the new SATA Express interface for data transfers of up to 16Gb/s. Broadwell is also expected to support DDR4 memory.

Source: Xbit Labs

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#1 Aug 30, 2013

Good thing my 3570K is doing me just fine at the current moment.

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#2 Aug 30, 2013

So many people who skipped 3rd gen are grinding their teeth right now. :mad:

Albeit, by the time most people who bought 4th gen are ready to upgrade, they would likely be going to a new platform anyway.

Still...

Wow! That was a short lived platform.

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#3 Aug 30, 2013

One can feel the anger, outrage, disbelief in this...... if (and this is an if) Haswell is a "one and done" - it is hard to imagine how Intel can be so short sighted.

The only possible saying grace is that maybe, just maybe, "haswell refresh" be it "broadwell" or what ever it may be called. Might be sooooooo gooooood that one may find it in one's heart, mind and wallet to forgive Intel.

Then again that is somewhat doubtful?!?!?!?

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#4 Aug 30, 2013

How is it short sighted? To be short sighted it has to cause problems for Intel, not us.
Anybody remember 1156? P55?
S430?

Yet again yall ate confusing "this sucks for me" with "this is a bad business decision".
This won't hurt Intel in the slightest, or they wouldn't do it.
Don't forget how extremely revolutionary Haswell is! It might not be in performance, but in design it's bleeding edge and then some. It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that the chipset/socket/pinout needs to be changed.

Who's going to switch to AMD and lose what, 25% performance? More? Over this? Not me. Probably not you, either.

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#5 Aug 30, 2013

How is it short sighted? To be short sighted it has to cause problems for Intel, not us.
Anybody remember 1156? P55?
S430?

Yet again yall ate confusing "this sucks for me" with "this is a bad business decision".
This won't hurt Intel in the slightest, or they wouldn't do it.
Don't forget how extremely revolutionary Haswell is! It might not be in performance, but in design it's bleeding edge and then some. It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that the chipset/socket/pinout needs to be changed.

Who's going to switch to AMD and lose what, 25% performance? More? Over this? Not me. Probably not you, either.

Yes, yes you make an excellent point. The fact of the matter is that it must violate one of the overclockers laws (know your upgrade path).

Haswell really truly is a "laptop part" and is a marvel of modern engineering. It is somewhat unfortunate that it may have a somewhat short life cycle.

I firmly believe that most forum members have pockets so deep that most of them won't really care. I get that. It just somewhat of a let down.

Again - VR Zone is a source (IIRC they reported this as well) it does get confusing:bang head

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#6 Aug 30, 2013

Anybody remember 1156? P55?
S430?

Who? ;)

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#7 Aug 30, 2013

The good thing is, when steamroller comes, i can just replace the CPU. :P :santa:

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#8 Aug 30, 2013

You can keep dreaming, it doesn't hurt anybody. The fact is that no one knows if there will be something new released for the am3+ Platform. The only thing you can be sure of, is that you can upgrade to one of the 2 fx 9xxx cpus.

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#9 Aug 30, 2013

The good thing is, when steamroller comes, i can just replace the CPU. :P :santa:

Are you sure???

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums...ocket-Am3-is-DEAD-Socket-FM2-Now-AMD-High-end

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#10 Aug 30, 2013

Everything I've heard points to Steamroller being AM4.

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