large SATA or Raptor plus IDE

Misellus · Sep 15, 2004

I've read several topics answering similar questions but nothing that quite answers mine.

I want to upgrade to SATA if it's worth the money and will show an improvement. I've currently got 2 Maxtor 7200 IDE drives totalling 280gig. I can burn some stuff to dvd and get that down to 200 easily enough. Should I buy a normal 250gig SATA and move the data from both drives over; or buy a raptor to run the OS and programs plus keep one of the IDE drives as storage/PVR/dvd ripping space?

I cannot afford to buy multiple drives, so just buying 2 raptors is not an option. I also don't want to do this if the improvement will be negligible.

Is it better to speed up all drive access a little, or speed up the OS by a lot and keep low speed storage for things not used very often?

Is normal SATA so much faster than IDE that I will see the difference?

Misellus

tom10167 · Sep 15, 2004

Oh man. You'd be CRAZY to give up two 160GB drives JUST because they're IDE.

Aside from Raptors, the difference between Sata and ATA is small. Almost non-existent as far as performance goes. Just get a Raptor for programs and your operating system and leave all of your hefty [porn] files on the other drives.

I.M.O.G. · Sep 15, 2004

Definetly raptor for OS programs, IDE for cheap mass storage.

The improvement from a raptor 36 to a 74 is pretty negligible also in my opinion, so I would save $50 or more and get a 36G for $100.

There are excellent comparisons on storagereview.com if you look around there, search, and/or use the leaderboard. They have GREAT information there.

fastcuda · Sep 16, 2004

Blah on sata

I know people will not agree with this, but I had a 160 seagate sata barracuda I got like 3 weeks ago and I saw they just came out with the new sata 2 drives that support NCQ, so anyway, I RMA'd the drive since I only had it 2 weeks and was going to get the sata 2 drive for 8 dollars more, but meanwhile the ide 160 gb barracuda drives went on sale for 50 bucks each after rebate, so I got 2 of those, and have one installed now and cannot tell the difference from the sata drive, actually, it loads a lot faster because the sata drivers on the motherboard have a jumper that disables them so I dont have to wait for that part to boot up. Until the motherboards will support sata 2 , or raptors come down in price, I am happy, I got 20 bucks back and double the storage! Does anyone know if I can raid o the 2 ide drives?

Mr.Guvernment · Sep 16, 2004

i got my 74g raptor and it raped my 129g WD8mb drive now!

so as said get a raptor for OS and apps / games and a large IDE for storage

saltytheseagull · Sep 16, 2004

You can raid the 160s but i don't think with the onboard raid (only sata). You have to buy a pci card. I've got the same board.

saltytheseagull · Sep 16, 2004

Is a raptor that much fast than a regularsata drive?

Vio1 · Sep 16, 2004

Yes! Definetly!
night and day.

Mr.Guvernment · Sep 17, 2004

^^^ what he said.

Gongo56 · Sep 17, 2004

get the 36gig raptor to run your os, use yoru other drives as storage. waste of money for dual raptors in raid.

Misellus · Sep 17, 2004

Thanks everyone, that was the answer I needed. I'll be getting the 74gig Raptor since newegg has them on sale. It'll replace the OS partition and my download drive, I'll keep one or both of the IDEs as storage.

Misellus

I.M.O.G. · Sep 17, 2004

saltytheseagull said:
Is a raptor that much fast than a regularsata drive?

The logic and algorithms that the raptor uses, combined with its cache and spindle speed, make it one mean HDD. It's the drives logic that really make it great though, for a single user application.

sirjinx1974 · Sep 17, 2004

Just to seal the deal, check out my benchmark from my 2 36 gig raptors

http://www.myputer.mine.nu/

Tell me this would not speed up your OS and computer?

saltytheseagull · Sep 18, 2004

sirjinx1974 said:
Just to seal the deal, check out my benchmark from my 2 36 gig raptors

http://www.myputer.mine.nu/

Tell me this would not speed up your OS and computer?

The link doesn't work.

sirjinx1974 · Sep 18, 2004

Try it again, We had a storm and the storm knocked out my internet. The link should work now.

Aslan · Sep 18, 2004

I.M.O.G. said:
Definetly raptor for OS programs, IDE for cheap mass storage.

The improvement from a raptor 36 to a 74 is pretty negligible also in my opinion, so I would save $50 or more and get a 36G for $100.

There are excellent comparisons on storagereview.com if you look around there, search, and/or use the leaderboard. They have GREAT information there.

Agreed. If you already have a pair of 160gig IDE drives, then I think I would be best to buy a Raptor for your OS and keep the drives you have for
storage.

A 250 gig SATA drive won't give you much of a benefit at all compared to what you have, unless you buy both a NCQ compliant drive and controller card. Even still to get full performance, I think you would even need to buy a new motherboard that supports NCQ (presently based only on the i9xx LGA775 chipset), as a PCI based card might flood the bus.

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