Yea, I was going to say. It seems alot of people with the tualatins also have 8500s. I think its because they both have the most value over any other video card or cpu.
But yea. The tualeron w/ 8500 scores are getting pretty high. When i recieve my BX-133 I expect my tB1 1.2 to reach 140fsb and my score to be close to 8500 or 9000. Thats also with cas2 memory.
BTW, back when i got my 8500 like near june, the best deal was a 250/275 card with 3.3ns memory at newegg. Back then it was around $90. Stock i got the memory to 324 and core to 281. I think thats pretty good. It was labeled as "builtbyati bulk". Read the reviews for the cards and you will see everyone else got the card with 3.3ns memory. See if they still have this card. Its not likely, but maybe.