Playing with CoolBits settings

Larry Quinn · Feb 16, 2005

Ok...you've gotta try this....

I've been playing around with Aquamark 03..and Coolbits....

Whenever I locked my overclock in Coolbits to 405/1.12 I would get scores @ 59400 or so....

Sometimes I would get the dreaded "Stutter" where the screen freezes for a moment...and BLOWS your score.

Well just out of desperation, I tried the "Auto Overclock" setting in Coolbits...

First try running Aquamark 65970!!!!

No Stutter..and it FLEW through the benchmark!

I need to try 3dmark '05 next....
But Aquamark takes so much less time to get a score!

Let me know what you find!

Larry

Oh...I'm running the 71.25 drivers on a EVGA 6800GT

Sentential · Feb 16, 2005

Ive found the "stuttering" is more mobo dependant than anything else. However Im glad autodetect has helped

I have 414 / 1140

Larry Quinn · Feb 16, 2005

No...your missing my point....

I could lock to a certain OC...Just like you are...

I never dared to let the computer decide where to put the clock...

SO I just tried Auto overclock for the heck of it!

Saw a HUGE performance gain....

I was hoping someone else would give it a try....
After all...you can always re-lock them to whatever you want later on....

These results came as a HUGE suprise to me!

Larry

Sentential · Feb 16, 2005

Larry Quinn said:
No...your missing my point....

I could lock to a certain OC...Just like you are...

I never dared to let the computer decide where to put the clock...

SO I just tried Auto overclock for the heck of it!

Saw a HUGE performance gain....

I was hoping someone else would give it a try....
After all...you can always re-lock them to whatever you want later on....

These results came as a HUGE suprise to me!

Larry

Hmmm interesting.... ill give that a shot. What the hell couldnt hurt anything lol

Larry Quinn · Feb 16, 2005

Yeah...I mean I nearly fell out of my chair...

Common sense told me that whatever OC the coolbits would try on it's own would be conservative (To say the least)..
But what may be happening is that is Overclocking Dynamically (sp?)...
It pushes up the clock wherever it can..then backs down when it starts to see "Trouble".

I saw FPS readings at certain points in Aquanox03 OVER 180 Fps!

True some other places it dropped...but no matter where I manually locked the overclock in past tests....I never saw high points for the FPS like this before!

Larry

crull · Feb 17, 2005

Larry Quinn said:
Yeah...I mean I nearly fell out of my chair...

Common sense told me that whatever OC the coolbits would try on it's own would be conservative (To say the least)..
But what may be happening is that is Overclocking Dynamically (sp?)...
It pushes up the clock wherever it can..then backs down when it starts to see "Trouble".

I saw FPS readings at certain points in Aquanox03 OVER 180 Fps!

True some other places it dropped...but no matter where I manually locked the overclock in past tests....I never saw high points for the FPS like this before!

Larry

I can't get the automatic setting with Coolbits on my 6600GT any idea why?

theMonster · Feb 17, 2005

hmmmm...I'll try this this afternoon and report back.

Larry Quinn · Feb 17, 2005

Not owning a 6600 I really have no idea....driver revision maybe....

In coolbits...overclocking......
there is a selection on the left side of the setting screen with 3 selections.
No overclocking
Auto Overclocking
Manual overclocking.

Manual lets you move the sliders to what you want.

Auto leaves them greyed out.

Hope that helps.

crull · Feb 17, 2005

Larry Quinn said:
Not owning a 6600 I really have no idea....driver revision maybe....

In coolbits...overclocking......
there is a selection on the left side of the setting screen with 3 selections.
No overclocking
Auto Overclocking
Manual overclocking.

Manual lets you move the sliders to what you want.

Auto leaves them greyed out.

Hope that helps.

Thanks,

Under the overclocking tab I have Manual or No Overclocking. I have tried a few different versions of drivers, but it's never any different.

Maybe the 6600GT doesn't have the option.

Does anyone with a 6600GT have the automatic setting under the coolbits overclocking tab?

Larry Quinn · Feb 17, 2005

Is your card PCie....???
I don't know a lot about the 6600....But thought they were all PCIe.

The whole SLI thing has me scratching my head....

Maybe Auto only applies in an AGP environment.

Talking straight out my Butt when it comes to the 6600, PCIe, or SLI. Sorry.

theMonster · Feb 17, 2005

6600 and 6200 both come in both AGP and PCI-e

Memphis69 · Feb 17, 2005

i have an auto oc in my 6600gt on my control panel where my auto detect is, is that what your talkin about.?

crull · Feb 17, 2005

Memphis69 said:
i have an auto oc in my 6600gt on my control panel where my auto detect is, is that what your talkin about.?

This is what I mean. I have tried around 10 versions of the newest drivers and the auto overclock feature is not in them. There is just a blank space where it should be. If you have this feature what version of drivers are you using please?

Scroll down the page at this link.

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=737

Larry Quinn · Feb 17, 2005

Not sure...

Left click on the desktop
Properties
settings
advanced properties.(near the color depth and resolution selections)
click of the 6800GT tab. (6600 in your case)

you should see the properties page for the vid. with a smaller menu on the left side.

with coolbits enabled it adds an "Overclocking" selection to that smaller menu.
click on there and the "main" screen changes to show Overclocking settings where the 2 slider controls are that let you set the Core freq and Mem clock.

In that window on the left side of the sliders there should be three settings.

No overclocking
Auto overclocking
Manual overclocking.

Without giving you a screen shot (I'm at work) I can't be more specific.

crull · Feb 17, 2005

Larry Quinn said:
Not sure...

Left click on the desktop
Properties
settings
advanced properties.(near the color depth and resolution selections)
click of the 6800GT tab. (6600 in your case)

you should see the properties page for the vid. with a smaller menu on the left side.

with coolbits enabled it adds an "Overclocking" selection to that smaller menu.
click on there and the "main" screen changes to show Overclocking settings where the 2 slider controls are that let you set the Core freq and Mem clock.

In that window on the left side of the sliders there should be three settings.

No overclocking
Auto overclocking
Manual overclocking.

Without giving you a screen shot (I'm at work) I can't be more specific.

That's correct, but I don't have the Auto overclock selection. The space where it should be is blank. So I am trying to find someone with a 6600GT that has the "auto overclocking" feature in there so I can figure out why I don't have it.

Larry Quinn · Feb 17, 2005

I am using the 71.25 ver.

But I'm pretty sure it's been there way back into 6X.XX

It's sounding more like a 6600 versus 6800 issue.

theMonster · Feb 17, 2005

I doubt that as well, because it's there on my 6200 which is just a 6600 -4 pipes

crull · Feb 17, 2005

theMonster said:
I doubt that as well, because it's there on my 6200 which is just a 6600 -4 pipes

That's weird. Memphis69 I think has it on his 6600GT.

Maybe it only shows up on those cards that have the temperature probe enabled in the bios.

My MSI 6600GT AGP has the temperature probe disabled. I could flash it but I don't like the small risk. I have no need anyway because I have an external probe attached to the GPU.

Does your card show temp monster?

Larry Quinn · Feb 17, 2005

Ahhhhhhh......

You may be on to something!

Temperature may be one method the "Auto" setting used to dertermine safe overclock settings.

I had no idea that some cards had this disabled.

{PMS}fishy · Feb 17, 2005

I find the auto settings that are detected to not be stable for my card at all.

If I let it detect, it pulls up 448/1180, I can run a few loops of 3Dmark at those speeds, but it locks and goes purple and scrambeled after that.

Fastest that I have gotten it to run stable at are 425/1150

So, auto detect is not as great as it thinks it is. Is there anything out for the Nvidia cards like the ati tool?

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